Tryfan "easy" ?!?

#1
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2689561.ece

How stupid is this? I went up Tryfan once, in thick fog, on an exped, and watched with disbelief as a PTI jumped from one pillar to another (Adam and Eve) at the top. A fellow expeder slipped and nearly fell off near the top (I was behind and underneath him :evil: ) and I have a long list of holiday destinations, on which this particularly challenging destination is near the bottom. Beneath Tryfan on the list is that nasty ridge on Snowdon which I went across like a rocket rather than linger and look over the edge! :oops:

'Easy route' in mountain guide book led hiker to his death

A “misleading” guide book on trekking in Snowdonia led a walker to his death although he followed a recommended route, an inquest was told yesterday.

Mountaineering experts called for the £3.95 book to be withdrawn from sale because, they said, it gave a “false representation” of a difficult climb.

After following one of its routes up Mount Tryfan in North Wales and getting lost, Christopher Parratt, 32, left his wife and dog on a ledge to get help but ended up falling more 80 feet (24 metres) and broke his skull.

The inquest at Caernarfon was told that Mr Parratt and his wife, Jennifer, 29, used the book Walks in the Snowdonia Mountains to try to find their way up the 3,000ft mountain. They referred to a chapter headed Tryfan the Easy Way, Detective Inspector Gerwyn Lloyd, of Ogwen Valley Mountain Rescue Team, said: “There is no easy way up Tryfan. It is a serious mountain, a mountaineering mountain, and there are no paths on it. The title Tryfan the Easy Way is extremely misleading.”

Mrs Parratt and her husband travelled to North Wales for a holiday in June. They walked up Tryfan with their dog, Oscar, after buying the book, a map and a compass in nearby Betws-y-Coed. Both were keen on sports and experienced hikers.

The couple, from Wallingford, Oxfordshire, followed a recommended route but despite becoming confused found their way to the summit, which was covered in low cloud. As conditions became wetter they used a map for their descent down the North Ridge. “We had lost confidence in the book on the way up,” Mrs Parratt said.

The descent was slippery and became increasingly steep and they could not see any path. They stopped on a ledge then Mr Parratt continued to climb down. “I stayed on the ledge and held on to the dog as he went down first,” Mrs Parratt said.

But Mr Parratt then lost his grip and fell backwards down the mountain. His wife called the emergency services before scrambling down to him. “I’m not quite sure how I managed that.” She stayed with him for two hours until the rescue team arrived.

Inspector Lloyd said that a map in the book was misleading and virtually impossible to follow: “I would like to see it withdrawn from sale.”

John Hulse, the rescue team leader, added: “There is no easy way up Tryfan — it’s a contradiction in terms.”

The guide’s publisher denied that the book suggested that climbing Tryfan was easy. Myrddin Dafydd, of Gwasg Carreg Gwalch, said: “The book describes two paths for every mountain — the ‘hard’ one and the ‘easy’ one. The ‘easy’ routes are only easier by comparison. The guide says that Tryfan is the toughest mountain in Wales.

“The book takes it for granted that it’s for people who are prepared and understand mountains.”

Nicola Jones, the deputy coroner for northwest Wales, recorded a verdict of accidental death.
 
#2
I thought it was fairly easy! we got from the road to Adam and Eve in around 50 minutes, was a lot fitter then though! the jump is fairly harmless also...
 
#3
I think you are referring to crib goch as the "nasty ridge" near snowdon. That can be a bit cheeky if the wind is up and you have a large bergen on.
 
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#4
Done it more than once, never had a drama. Even with a hangover from "Swallows"! Mind you, I did always plan in the summer!
 
#5
Isn't the record descent from summit to the cottage supposed to be about 7 minutes?! the couple in the article must have ended up on the 'climbing' side of the mountain as I'm sure the book would have explained the easy walkers route up from the road and cottage but like any mountain you can become disorientated in extreme weather...
 
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#6
Gundulph said:
Isn't the record descent from summit to the cottage supposed to be about 7 minutes?! the couple in the article must have ended up on the 'climbing' side of the mountain as I'm sure the book would have explained the easy walkers route up from the road and cottage but like any mountain you can become disorientated in extreme weather...
I think he broke that record the route he took!
 
#7
I got up it fairly easily and certainly no dramas the climbing side a different matter and in bad weather could be tricky.
a proper mountain though and best beware
 
#8
Bottleosmoke said:
Gundulph said:
Isn't the record descent from summit to the cottage supposed to be about 7 minutes?! the couple in the article must have ended up on the 'climbing' side of the mountain as I'm sure the book would have explained the easy walkers route up from the road and cottage but like any mountain you can become disorientated in extreme weather...
I think he broke that record the route he took!
You'll go straight to hell for that one Bottleosmoke... 8O
 
#9
Gundulph said:
Isn't the record descent from summit to the cottage supposed to be about 7 minutes?![ /quote]

also, i believe there are several 'paths' on tryfan that lead you into ******* nasty tight spots. the fact they were experienced hikers as opposed to mountaineers means they probably went 'oh look a path.' not knowing most lead to nowhere, added to fatigue and generally not being used to the terrain im suprised only one died.

not to mention, climbing up the climbing side of tryfan can be tricky if the winds up and its damp, and climbing down is even harder.

and yeh, its something short like 7 minutes. fell runners tend to go down the scree slopes i think, because they tend to be fairly steep, but give good footing if you are competant, so they descent at light speed. maybe the guy who died was trying to beat the record. if he hadnt been stopped by a ledge he would have made under a minute i reckon!
 
#10
My school had a field centre nearby and groups of kids were regularly shoved up Tryfan. I found it hard going cos I was an idle fat f*ck back then, but I wouldn't say it was the Principality's equivalent of K2 by any means.
 
#12
I remember going up there with a bergan full of tinnies, and getting funny looks from the civvies, bloody cheek. Go to the Cuillins for some proper hills!
 
#13
Been up, can't say it was that problematic.

If they had a map (regardless of the book) surely they could have figured their way off?

Was up Snowdon (and tryfen) in about 92(?), that was the year that high winds blew the train over!!!! Walked past it, and the old "knife edge" where you look over the side at your peril.

Problem is easy/medium/hard will always be a relative comparision. What is medium to some may well be easy to some or hard for many.
 
#14
most of the problem with tryfan is it has a habit of being shitty weather.
with a lack of paths and such, if you arent spot on with your night or poor visibility navigation, and get lost you aint got much hope of walking off very quickly unless you know the terrain.

recently i was on the summit of tryfan in such high weather i was getting blown sideways (litterally my feet slid) with a 15 kg rucksack. crawling over scree is fairly harsh on your knees.
 
#15
The problem with Tryfan is, it is too close to the bloody road! The last time I climbed Grooved Arete I was astonished just after crossing the Knight Moves, whilst setting up the belay I heard a voice "excuse me!" I turned around to see a bloke and his wife, in shorts and trainers, the bloke had a small child in one of them rucksack type affairs, his question? "do you know the quickest way down, we have gone a little off the track!!!!!!"

After angrily explaining that the quickest way down was the way I had just taken up but he wasn't equipped for it(no fecking wings), we ended up escorting them off the mountain, I was honestly fuming, this was in November and you couldn't see 25 yards for the low cloud, they didn't even have a waterproof between them!
 
#16
I bought that bloody book 5 years ago and threw it shortly after, neither use nor ornament. Not surprised someones been killed using it.

Tried to follow a walk but the paths on the map and on the ground were in different directions to the book. Stuck with my DofE map reading skills even after 15 years!
 
#17
I think somehow he must have strayed onto the east wall of Tryfan which is an HVD. or did he stray over onto the Milestone Buttress whichever in mist the down route is easily missed by the inexperienced. I think it was Ron Beer who did the seven minute decent to the road whilst doing the 3000s.
 

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