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Trump moves to ban bump stocks

Too little, and far to late. Trump is a business man, no politician, the NRA have bought him, in the same way Jimmy Hoffa was bought by the Mafia. Hoffa was, and trump is morally corrupt, in that he allows outside interests to determine the fate of the very people he is supposed to represent, and protect!


I think you are being a bit ridiculous there.

If Obama couldn't come up with a workable idea to prevent shooting spree deaths, then its hardly likely that Trump will do any better. Was Obama also "bought" by the NRA?

Its not a matter of ideology or corruption - its a matter of an intractable problem that has no apparent workable solutions, at least in the short or medium (decades) term.

If you can demonstrate a realistic and effective solution to this problem, then you'll probably be up for a Nobel or even POTUS itself.

You do need to focus on words like realistic, workable, effective, though - that where the crux of the problem is.
 
I doubt your bank balance exceeds his :)

No, but then again I haven't lost as much money as he has in terrible business decisions.
He's no businessman - he's someone who's been born into a rich family and surrounded by "yes" men and people with proper business acumen. This is obvious by the surprise he showed as POTUS when people finally started to tell him "no".
He is nothing more than a spoiled brat and bully who believes his own hype and not the self made man he likes to portray.

Trump University, anyone!
 
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I think if it went to a national vote the majority of Americans would not want stricter firearms laws / control , their culture appears to be paranoid about the authorities controlling them , foreign invasion and zombie attacks, loads of guns are the only way to protect themselves in their minds.

You'd be surprised.


Those in favor of stricter gun legislation outnumber those opposed by a measure of more than two-to-one, according to the poll. Sixty-six percent of respondents said they would support more stringent laws, while just 31% said they would not.
More Voters Than Ever Support Stricter Gun Laws, Poll Finds
 
Firearm legislation in the US is a Cluster****.

State legislation overrules national legislation all the time, in one state 'concealed carry' is illegal, in another State concealed carry is mandatory, in Florida it's easier to get an assault rifle (legally) than an automatic pistol.

All the individual States are very touchy when it comes to any national legislation, they don't agree with.

If all else fails, as this guy did..............just mumble "Constitutional Rights" and, everybody and their aunty backs off.
 
Firearm legislation in the US is a Cluster****.

State legislation overrules national legislation all the time, in one state 'concealed carry' is illegal, in another State concealed carry is mandatory, in Florida it's easier to get an assault rifle (legally) than an automatic pistol.

All the individual States are very touchy when it comes to any national legislation, they don't agree with.

If all else fails, as this guy did..............just mumble "Constitutional Rights" and, everybody and their aunty backs off.

Indeed. In many respects, the US is 50 different countries masquerading as one.
 
Firearm legislation in the US is a Cluster****.

State legislation overrules national legislation all the time, in one state 'concealed carry' is illegal, in another State concealed carry is mandatory, in Florida it's easier to get an assault rifle (legally) than an automatic pistol.

All the individual States are very touchy when it comes to any national legislation, they don't agree with.

If all else fails, as this guy did..............just mumble "Constitutional Rights" and, everybody and their aunty backs off.

I'm not surprised, automatic pistols are very expensive since the Federal ban on the importation and manufacturer of automatic firearms.
 
In other news today a small boy was prevented from urinating in the sea by his mother. We go live to Southend on Sea.

Reporter standing by the sea: Sea level is thought to be unaffected, but we've been told scientists are monitoring the situation. Back to the studio.
 
You'd be surprised.


Those in favor of stricter gun legislation outnumber those opposed by a measure of more than two-to-one, according to the poll. Sixty-six percent of respondents said they would support more stringent laws, while just 31% said they would not.
More Voters Than Ever Support Stricter Gun Laws, Poll Finds

There is no shortage of support for more effective gun laws from both gun owners and the NRA. The problem comes when there are attempts to impose knee jerk legislation that doesn't actually address the real problems, there is very little support for that.
 
There is no shortage of support for more effective gun laws from both gun owners and the NRA. The problem comes when there are attempts to impose knee jerk legislation that doesn't actually address the real problems, there is very little support for that.

I always got the impression that public support for stricter gun laws was always there but the congressmen were fully bought and paid for by the NRA who spoonfed them (very reasonable sounding but flawed) arguments to use against gun controls.
 
It's a gesture politics instruction to draft laws prohibiting any device that can turn a semi auto into something full auto or as near as.

That includes echo trigger systems which, along with bumpstocks, the BAFT have ruled do not fall foul of any existing law.
 
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