Trouble running, is flat-footedness responsible?

#1
I wouldn't consider myself particularly "fit" or "unfit", but I'm having problems running. I can run for about 1min30sec, and after that I just seem totally out of breath or in pain. I've had a history of foot-ailments in the past (knee muscles used to just 'give away', was resolved with insoles when I was young), but I'm still flat footed (and due to see a foot-person for insoles again).

Loads of studies have shown that flat-footedness doesn't affect a persons ability to run (or their susceptibility to injury), but I'm unconvinced.

I try, and try, but I just can't run any further. Even if I take it in run 1/walk 1 intervals, after the 4th running minute, my Soleus (muscle on the back of the lower leg) hurts too much to continue running. I do a 5 minute warmup walk before the run, and stretch properly after the walk, before the run. I don't think it's just a case of being unfit or unmotivated to push through, I'm just not physically ABLE to.

It's probably worth noting that I run on tarmac. I was just wondering if anyone has got any tips or suggestions on how I could progress? It's a hell of a long way getting from "0.25 mile in 1:40 and in agony" to "1.5 mile in 10:eek:dd" -- but I've got lots of time to train to that level, if I can figure out how to make ANY form of progression. I've been stuck like this for about 5 weeks!

Hopefully somebody with similar experiences will have some knowledge!
 
#2
Unless you are sprinting, being unable to run for more that a minute and half without exessive pain sounds serious. See a doctor and do not rely on the ill-informed diagnoses of internet medics.
 
#3
Well, I'm certainly not sprinting, it's more of a jog. I'll do significantly less running/jogging until I see the foot-person (I don't like my GP, and he'd probably just re-refer me to the foot person!), maybe reduce it down to just walking to avoid any atrophy of anything (however little) I have gained.
 
#4
Dammit, your GP will refer you to a specialist? Best steer clear.
Seriously though, see a doctor, if it is nothing you can be reassured if it is something serious you can get it fixed
 
#5
The problem is, I don't like him, and he doesn't seem to take any issues I have seriously.. I once went in with back pain that came and went every few days, he just felt around and said "It's fine"..
 
#6
The problem is, I don't like him, and he doesn't seem to take any issues I have seriously.. I once went in with back pain that came and went every few days, he just felt around and said "It's fine"..
Ah, my docs like that, told him i was getting bad chest pains, he told me that so long as i dont drink or smoke ill be thine... i do both... ****. still get them everynow and then, he then told me theres nothing wrong with my foot, im looking a it now adn well... its like a huge gurt of blue tennis ball. double ****.
 
#7
Chest pains? Funny, so do I. I've self-diagnosed (I know, you aren't supposed to, but he wasn't going to do anything) it as Precordial Catch Syndrome, a harmless illness that causes intense chest pains similar to a heart attack, that come out of nowhere. It's suprisingly common, but varies in intensity from person to person -- from a dull ache that you don't notice, to passing out from the pain. I'm somewhere between them, I sometimes (about every 3 weeks) collapse to the floor grasping my chest when the painful ones come (which worries everyone except my family who know of it), and the rest of the time (every week) I get a dull achy pain. The painful one typically lasts 5 seconds for me, but I've had it go for 30 seconds before now!

Well, that was slightly off topic, wasn't it! ;)

I woke up with pain in my knees today, which has since gone away, but I'm still not doing any more running today!

.. If I told a recruiter about past back pain, current chest pain and knee pain -- he'd probably just tell me not to even bother trying for the army! :p
 
#8
you sound ill...reeaaally ill. i'd get to a doctor.
 
#10
Sounds like a crow I used to instruct - you sure this is your first time applying for the Army?? ;o)
I won't be applying for a couple of years, if my current ability to run is anything to go by!


you sound ill...reeaaally ill. i'd get to a doctor.
I'm fine, really -- but I'll certainly bring up any knee/leg pains, running trouble etc, with the foot specialist, she'll know what's up! :)
 
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#11
doctor ASAP!! Why don't you try a physio, he/she could put you on a treadmill and have a good look at your running style, gait etc. As already said, better seeing a pro rather than listening to the internet medics!!
 
#12
doctor ASAP!! Why don't you try a physio, he/she could put you on a treadmill and have a good look at your running style, gait etc. As already said, better seeing a pro rather than listening to the internet medics!!
I've seen a foot/leg specialist before (the same place as I'm going in 2 weeks), and these DO have a good look at my walking, but I'll be sure to mention running to them -- it'll no doubt influence the course of my treatment.
 
#13
I wouldn't consider myself particularly "fit" or "unfit", but I'm having problems running. I can run for about 1min30sec, and after that I just seem totally out of breath or in pain. I've had a history of foot-ailments in the past (knee muscles used to just 'give away', was resolved with insoles when I was young), but I'm still flat footed (and due to see a foot-person for insoles again).

Loads of studies have shown that flat-footedness doesn't affect a persons ability to run (or their susceptibility to injury), but I'm unconvinced.

I try, and try, but I just can't run any further. Even if I take it in run 1/walk 1 intervals, after the 4th running minute, my Soleus (muscle on the back of the lower leg) hurts too much to continue running. I do a 5 minute warmup walk before the run, and stretch properly after the walk, before the run. I don't think it's just a case of being unfit or unmotivated to push through, I'm just not physically ABLE to.

It's probably worth noting that I run on tarmac. I was just wondering if anyone has got any tips or suggestions on how I could progress? It's a hell of a long way getting from "0.25 mile in 1:40 and in agony" to "1.5 mile in 10:eek:dd" -- but I've got lots of time to train to that level, if I can figure out how to make ANY form of progression. I've been stuck like this for about 5 weeks!

Hopefully somebody with similar experiences will have some knowledge!
Okay before I offer any advice I need to clarify something. You dont think your particularly unfit, but you can only run for a min and a half before your completely out of breath? (bearing in mind that you say you dont actually run, its more of a jog). Forget the leg pain for just a second - you SERIOUSLY need to have a word if you think that level of fitness is acceptable!!!

Okay as for your legs.................. Im also flat footed and I run and tab 5 days a week. It does have an effect and I suffered badly from shin splints not so long ago but a combination of research, lisetning to my body and trial and error and Im now fully cured.

Try the following AFTER you have been to see a Sports Injury Specialist (dont waste your time with a GP as they dont specialise in sports injury.)

1: Have a gait analysis carried out to determine what type of running shoes you should be wearing.
2: Get the correct insoles. Custom orthotics buggered me even more and they cost a fortune - I now use sorbothanes in my running shoes which give me lots of cushioning and some arch support for my flat feet. Sole Heat Mouldable Insoles are also superb. I use them in my combat boots.
3: Try cycling as much as possible to build the legs without putting too much pressure on them.
4: Run on a treadmill and build yourself up (as its springy and will cushion the impact. Then progress onto a 400m running track, then onto grass, then on to roads.
5: Stretching daily is great but consider sports massage, physiotherapy etc too.

Last thing and I dont mean to burst your bubble, but if your in that state now then Id maybe postpone your application to join for a while. During basic training (and beyond if your going for Infantry) a lot of what you do means you have to be physically robust - its not all about fitness and it sounds like your having some serious dramas.

Good luck whatever.
 
#14
I wouldn't consider myself particularly "fit" or "unfit", but I'm having problems running. I can run for about 1min30sec, and after that I just seem totally out of breath or in pain. I've had a history of foot-ailments in the past (knee muscles used to just 'give away', was resolved with insoles when I was young), but I'm still flat footed (and due to see a foot-person for insoles again).

Loads of studies have shown that flat-footedness doesn't affect a persons ability to run (or their susceptibility to injury), but I'm unconvinced.

I try, and try, but I just can't run any further. Even if I take it in run 1/walk 1 intervals, after the 4th running minute, my Soleus (muscle on the back of the lower leg) hurts too much to continue running. I do a 5 minute warmup walk before the run, and stretch properly after the walk, before the run. I don't think it's just a case of being unfit or unmotivated to push through, I'm just not physically ABLE to.

It's probably worth noting that I run on tarmac. I was just wondering if anyone has got any tips or suggestions on how I could progress? It's a hell of a long way getting from "0.25 mile in 1:40 and in agony" to "1.5 mile in 10:eek:dd" -- but I've got lots of time to train to that level, if I can figure out how to make ANY form of progression. I've been stuck like this for about 5 weeks!

Hopefully somebody with similar experiences will have some knowledge!
Your fitness levels are good enough for TA service.
 
#15
A. Wood, have you ever considered the very real possibility that you're just a bit of a fanny?
 
#20
Probably does actually. But you cant ******* tar all Reservists with the same brush.
I know, but it's a hoot watching the same personnel with no concept of military banter, continually biting like a thresher shark and madly typing away in PMs sending "stern warnings".
 

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