Trouble running, is flat-footedness responsible?

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by A.Wood, Aug 30, 2010.

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  1. I wouldn't consider myself particularly "fit" or "unfit", but I'm having problems running. I can run for about 1min30sec, and after that I just seem totally out of breath or in pain. I've had a history of foot-ailments in the past (knee muscles used to just 'give away', was resolved with insoles when I was young), but I'm still flat footed (and due to see a foot-person for insoles again).

    Loads of studies have shown that flat-footedness doesn't affect a persons ability to run (or their susceptibility to injury), but I'm unconvinced.

    I try, and try, but I just can't run any further. Even if I take it in run 1/walk 1 intervals, after the 4th running minute, my Soleus (muscle on the back of the lower leg) hurts too much to continue running. I do a 5 minute warmup walk before the run, and stretch properly after the walk, before the run. I don't think it's just a case of being unfit or unmotivated to push through, I'm just not physically ABLE to.

    It's probably worth noting that I run on tarmac. I was just wondering if anyone has got any tips or suggestions on how I could progress? It's a hell of a long way getting from "0.25 mile in 1:40 and in agony" to "1.5 mile in 10:eek:dd" -- but I've got lots of time to train to that level, if I can figure out how to make ANY form of progression. I've been stuck like this for about 5 weeks!

    Hopefully somebody with similar experiences will have some knowledge!
  2. Unless you are sprinting, being unable to run for more that a minute and half without exessive pain sounds serious. See a doctor and do not rely on the ill-informed diagnoses of internet medics.
  3. Well, I'm certainly not sprinting, it's more of a jog. I'll do significantly less running/jogging until I see the foot-person (I don't like my GP, and he'd probably just re-refer me to the foot person!), maybe reduce it down to just walking to avoid any atrophy of anything (however little) I have gained.
  4. Dammit, your GP will refer you to a specialist? Best steer clear.
    Seriously though, see a doctor, if it is nothing you can be reassured if it is something serious you can get it fixed
  5. The problem is, I don't like him, and he doesn't seem to take any issues I have seriously.. I once went in with back pain that came and went every few days, he just felt around and said "It's fine"..
  6. Ah, my docs like that, told him i was getting bad chest pains, he told me that so long as i dont drink or smoke ill be thine... i do both... ****. still get them everynow and then, he then told me theres nothing wrong with my foot, im looking a it now adn well... its like a huge gurt of blue tennis ball. double ****.
  7. Chest pains? Funny, so do I. I've self-diagnosed (I know, you aren't supposed to, but he wasn't going to do anything) it as Precordial Catch Syndrome, a harmless illness that causes intense chest pains similar to a heart attack, that come out of nowhere. It's suprisingly common, but varies in intensity from person to person -- from a dull ache that you don't notice, to passing out from the pain. I'm somewhere between them, I sometimes (about every 3 weeks) collapse to the floor grasping my chest when the painful ones come (which worries everyone except my family who know of it), and the rest of the time (every week) I get a dull achy pain. The painful one typically lasts 5 seconds for me, but I've had it go for 30 seconds before now!

    Well, that was slightly off topic, wasn't it! ;)

    I woke up with pain in my knees today, which has since gone away, but I'm still not doing any more running today!

    .. If I told a recruiter about past back pain, current chest pain and knee pain -- he'd probably just tell me not to even bother trying for the army! :p
  8. you sound ill...reeaaally ill. i'd get to a doctor.
  9. Sounds like a crow I used to instruct - you sure this is your first time applying for the Army?? ;o)
  10. I won't be applying for a couple of years, if my current ability to run is anything to go by!

    I'm fine, really -- but I'll certainly bring up any knee/leg pains, running trouble etc, with the foot specialist, she'll know what's up! :)
  11. d11


    doctor ASAP!! Why don't you try a physio, he/she could put you on a treadmill and have a good look at your running style, gait etc. As already said, better seeing a pro rather than listening to the internet medics!!
  12. I've seen a foot/leg specialist before (the same place as I'm going in 2 weeks), and these DO have a good look at my walking, but I'll be sure to mention running to them -- it'll no doubt influence the course of my treatment.
  13. Okay before I offer any advice I need to clarify something. You dont think your particularly unfit, but you can only run for a min and a half before your completely out of breath? (bearing in mind that you say you dont actually run, its more of a jog). Forget the leg pain for just a second - you SERIOUSLY need to have a word if you think that level of fitness is acceptable!!!

    Okay as for your legs.................. Im also flat footed and I run and tab 5 days a week. It does have an effect and I suffered badly from shin splints not so long ago but a combination of research, lisetning to my body and trial and error and Im now fully cured.

    Try the following AFTER you have been to see a Sports Injury Specialist (dont waste your time with a GP as they dont specialise in sports injury.)

    1: Have a gait analysis carried out to determine what type of running shoes you should be wearing.
    2: Get the correct insoles. Custom orthotics buggered me even more and they cost a fortune - I now use sorbothanes in my running shoes which give me lots of cushioning and some arch support for my flat feet. Sole Heat Mouldable Insoles are also superb. I use them in my combat boots.
    3: Try cycling as much as possible to build the legs without putting too much pressure on them.
    4: Run on a treadmill and build yourself up (as its springy and will cushion the impact. Then progress onto a 400m running track, then onto grass, then on to roads.
    5: Stretching daily is great but consider sports massage, physiotherapy etc too.

    Last thing and I dont mean to burst your bubble, but if your in that state now then Id maybe postpone your application to join for a while. During basic training (and beyond if your going for Infantry) a lot of what you do means you have to be physically robust - its not all about fitness and it sounds like your having some serious dramas.

    Good luck whatever.
  14. Your fitness levels are good enough for TA service.
  15. A. Wood, have you ever considered the very real possibility that you're just a bit of a fanny?