I was talking to a Canadian buddy of mine last night, somehow the topic of subs came up. He mentioned that there is a big shit storm raging in Canada right now, since the past few months as to what to do with their Victoria class subs. Throw more good money after the bad or just scrap the lot and cut your losses? Finally after much debate, it looks like they will try and keep the fleet at least till 2030, so they have time to get some new ones up and running. But, apparently, there is a good chance that at least one or two of the boats might be operating at "reduced operational capability," whatever the hell that is. It probably hasn't helped that HMCS Corner Brook ran aground near Vancouver last summer, in that fine ex-British submarine tradition. Troubled submarines to be used until 2030 - Canada - CBC News A summary rundown from a recent CBC article: My favourite quote from the above: They haven't had much luck with these, have they?