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Hi all
I have seen on the news that the programme for troops to teachers is going to be trested in the Manchester area. Has anyone got any information on this? Links etc.
not being lazy, the infomation i have found is outdated.

Cheers Matt
 
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You're mistaken.

The school in Manchester that's got lots of ex squaddies working in it is a FREE SCHOOL that has chosen to employ ex squaddies. Free schools are run independently of the government and can employ whoever they please to teach.

Troops to Teachers isn't being rolled out yet (I don't think it is anyway) and when it is the first tranche will be c.100 people and SNCO/WO/Offr ranks. It will be a fast-track degree followed by the same on the job teacher training as anyone else who wants to change from their current role to teaching. That means it's not going to be easy and will certainly not mean any old punter can just bimble from soldiering to teaching in a week...

Those going on the scheme would be (I'd imagine) less shouty, bluffing, Trg Wg types and more the kind of intelligent leader that doesn't need to hide behind his rank slide. Kids in the kinds of schools they'll be pushing T2T candidates to don't give a **** who you were or what you did...
 
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As above, the scheme is not active yet, if it ever happens at all, it's not popular in teaching circles. Not sure how this fast track degree will work. I've just completed four years at University, foundation year and chemistry degree, and start PGCE Secondary science next week.
 
#5
As above, the scheme is not active yet, if it ever happens at all, it's not popular in teaching circles. Not sure how this fast track degree will work. I've just completed four years at University, foundation year and chemistry degree, and start PGCE Secondary science next week.
Ah, another great teacher with lots of life experience in the making.......... didn't fancy the real world for a bit first in order to bring something else to the table other than pure academia ? Or are you a mature student with experience to bring to the students ?

I'm of an age where all my most inspiring teachers had serious real world experience both in things like WW2 , or the military in general and were pretty much all parents too so had lots of non book knowledge.
 
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Ah, another great teacher with lots of life experience in the making.......... didn't fancy the real world for a bit first in order to bring something else to the table other than pure academia ? Or are you a mature student with experience to bring to the students ?

I'm of an age where all my most inspiring teachers had serious real world experience both in things like WW2 , or the military in general and were pretty much all parents too so had lots of non book knowledge.
Well I'm of an age to be a 39 year old father of 2, exSNCO, with 12 years served in 29 Commando RA. Tick enough boxes for you, now wind it.
 
#7
To be fair d_b, almerkerkey doesn't say that all he has done is Uni then off to teach (unless you know more of his background than he has said there?).

Am not surprised that its not popular in the teaching world but then why would it be? Lots of intelligent people with transferrable skills, life skills and experience to real pressure environments invading their cosy little staff room knock-off-for-6-weeks-summer-hols world.

I am planning on teaching when I get out in '14 and recently watched a panorama or similar doc on a school in Birmingham I think which has lots of ex military teachers and very close links with the local ACF or CCF. Funnily enough, Christine Blower, head of the NUT voiced her concern at it. Her arguement was that kids won't react well to people shouting and ordering them about. I thought that her closed, narrow minded comments, insinuating that we are all Windsor Davies "It aint 'alf hot mum" types was typical of someone who has no concept of the type of people who work in the Armed Forces.

I felt like shouting at her and putting her on pan bash for a month....
 
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Well I'm of an age to be a 39 year old father of 2, exSNCO, with 12 years served in 29 Commando RA. Tick enough boxes for you, now wind it.
In which case you'll probably be a bloody good teacher so don't be so defensive !

My beef is with young 'uns who have no life experiences and are often only a few years older than the kids they teach. Re-read my post ..............
 
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In which case you'll probably be a bloody good teacher so don't be so defensive !

My beef is with young 'uns who have no life experiences and are often only a few years older than the kids they teach. Re-read my post ..............
Sorry, you obviously touched a nerve, I'll be working on increasing my flash to bang for the classroom.
 
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From the White Paper:

Download here:

https://www.education.gov.uk/publications/standard/publicationdetail/page1/CM 7980

2.15 We will also encourage Armed Forces leavers to become teachers, by developinga ‘Troops to Teachers’ programme which will sponsor service leavers to train asteachers. We will pay tuition fees for PGCEs for eligible graduates leaving theArmed Forces and work with universities to explore the possibility of establishinga bespoke compressed undergraduate route into teaching targeted at ArmedForces leavers who have the relevant experience and skills but may lack degreelevelqualifications. We will encourage Teach First to work with the services asthey develop Teach Next, so that service leavers are able to take advantage of newopportunities to move into education. Service leavers also have a great deal tooffer young people as mentors and we will be looking to increase opportunitiesfor this. The charity Skill Force does fantastic work in this area enabling moreformer Armed Forces personnel to work alongside the children who benefit most​
from their support.
 
#14
Hi all
Thanks for the replies; I have looked into skillforce and the mentoring scheme. The white paper was brought out last year around November. I believe this scheme is of the back of the white paper.
I am ex RA with 13 years service history and I have been out for 9 years. I now work in the adult education sector and have completed my PTLLS and CTLLS (Preparing to teach in the lifelong learning sector and certificate to teach in the lifelong learning centre).
This seems like an ideal opportunity for someone in my situation.
 
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...Am not surprised that its not popular in the teaching world but then why would it be?....
Is it not?
I think its a great idea - and I'm a Teacher in my 7th year of teaching in a tough school.

In my experience kids love having a teacher who is ex-squaddie. They were gutted when one of my ex-sigs colleagues left 2 years ago for a promotion. I was only a part-timer, but he was ex-reg, GW1 vintage.
I remember him ordering his lads to 'face your front' parade ground style and they lapped it up! A positive, constructive, yet strong, masculine influence is something many of our youth are missing out on in our more deprived areas (like mine) I'm all for it!
We also have a site staff manager who is ex SF (70s vintage, I believe, and he gets respect and obedience from the kids - he doesn't tell people about it, so no walting here, I reckon)

By the way, I think your comment on the cosy-staff-room lifestyle, as well as being patronising and insulting, is out-dated - where have you observed this? you won't find anyone taking it easy in my school, I guarantee you.
Its not the same as carrying out section/platoon/company/battallion attacks on STANTA, but it is challenging and difficult in other ways. The holidays are compensation for a crap wage if you ask me - any other so-called professionals who train at a similar level for a similar time before starting work (lawyers etc... start on the same money as our top pay grade). That's the justification for crap w agesI have to keep telling myself anyway
 
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Hi all
Thanks for the replies; I have looked into skillforce and the mentoring scheme. The white paper was brought out last year around November. I believe this scheme is of the back of the white paper.
I am ex RA with 13 years service history and I have been out for 9 years. I now work in the adult education sector and have completed my PTLLS and CTLLS (Preparing to teach in the lifelong learning sector and certificate to teach in the lifelong learning centre).

This seems like an ideal opportunity for someone in my situation.
Im looking at doing my PTLLS and CTTLS at the mo in my Resettlement period...just registered with a piece i saw in the Soldier magazine last month.

Thanks for that Link Brotherton lad, does anyone know if theres any PTTLS equivalent courses currently on going at AECs at the moment???
 
#19
I agree with shandy123, the learners I get automatically give you a level of respect knowing you have served. I am not saying it is easy but if you were to stand an ex squaddie teacher against the whiteboard and a 22 year old teacher who has just finished UNI who would the kids pick? The ex squaddie every time.
The learners do lap up the discipline and I feel nowadays the youth have lost their way. We can bring a lot more to the classroom than knowledge.
Did anyone see that jamies dream school? It is proof that you can be an expert in your field and be a crap teacher. I feel the programme was well edited to make it look like a success. I believe the teachers who did succeed were the ones who could engage with the children at their level.
 
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In which case you'll probably be a bloody good teacher so don't be so defensive !

My beef is with young 'uns who have no life experiences and are often only a few years older than the kids they teach. Re-read my post ..............
Nah, you showed your ARRSE there fella. All too quick to jump on the wagon. I can just imagine you on parents evening getting all aggressive waiting to give young almerkerkey a piece of your mind...and then sitting down very quietly when he walked into the room....in your face.
 
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