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  1. I found this quite handy........

    What Is A Troll?
    The term derives from "trolling", a style of fishing which involves trailing bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The troll posts a message, often in response to an honest question, that is intended to upset, disrupt or simply insult the group.

    Usually, it will fail, as the troll rarely bothers to match the tone or style of the group, and usually its ignorance shows.

    Why do trolls do it?
    I believe that most trolls are sad people, living their lonely lives vicariously through those they see as strong and successful.

    Disrupting a stable newsgroup gives the illusion of power, just as for a few, stalking a strong person allows them to think they are strong, too.

    For trolls, any response is 'recognition'; they are unable to distinguish between irritation and admiration; their ego grows directly in proportion to the response, regardless of the form or content of that response.

    Trolls, rather surprisingly, dispute this, claiming that it's a game or joke; this merely confirms the diagnosis; how sad do you have to be to find such mind-numbingly trivial timewasting to be funny?

    Remember that trolls are cowards; they'll usually post just enough to get an argument going, then sit back and count the responses (Yes, that's what they do!).

    Troll - Angler or Underbridge Dweller?

    How can troll posts be recognised?
    No Imagination - Most are frighteningly obvious; sexist comments on nurses' groups, blasphemy on religious groups .. I kid you not.
    Pedantic in the Extreme - Many trolls' preparation is so thorough, that while they waste time, they appear so ludicrous from the start that they elicit sympathetic mail - the danger is that once the group takes sides, the damage is done.
    False Identity - Because they are cowards, trolls virtually never write over their own name, and often reveal their trolliness (and lack of imagination) in the chosen ID. As so many folk these days use false ID, this is not a strong indicator on its own!
    Crossposting - Any post that is crossposted to several groups should be viewed as suspicious, particularly if unrelated or of opposing perspective. Why would someone do that?
    Off-topic posting - Often genuine errors, but, if from an 'outsider' they deserve matter-of-fact response; if genuine, a brief apposite response is simply netiquette; if it's a troll post, you have denied it its reward.
    Repetition of a question or statement is either a troll - or a pedant; either way, treatment as a troll is effective.
    Missing The Point - Trolls rarely answer a direct question - they cannot, if asked to justify their twaddle - so they develop a fine line in missing the point.
    Thick or Sad - Trolls are usually sad, lonely folk, with few social skills; they rarely make what most people would consider intelligent conversation. However, they frequently have an obsession with their IQ and feel the need to tell everyone. This is so frequent, that it is diagnostic! Somewhere on the web there must be an Intelligence Test for Trolls - rigged to always say "above 150"
  2. Auld-Yin

    Auld-Yin LE Reviewer Book Reviewer Reviews Editor

    [quote="Adam(KOSWhat Is A Troll?
    Troll - Angler or Underbridge Dweller?


    You are a troll and I claim my £10 :lol:
  3. Adam's post (which was, let's face it, a cut&paste) was both etymologically incorrect and wide of the mark in several areas. It appears to have been written by someone with all the social skills of a 14 year old with Asperger's. There is really only one way to win an argument, and that is to be both correct in your assertions from the outset, and to know more about the subject than your opponent.
  4. Thats you stuffed then :wink:
  5. I'm sorry but you are completely wrong here. Any argument can be won with application of brute force, long and pointless forum threads, huge amounts of irony and a touch of slander. You prick.

    I'll stop being witty for a bit.

    Adam's post seems to describe the kind of 13 yr old scribbler that is everywhere on the internet these days. I occasionally do a spot of trolling on various forums (not this one) and there is a touch of subtlety required. Choosing the correct victims is the best place to start- pick people who just absolutely have to argue. Whiny emo kids, media/english/humanities students, religious nutjobs. Make a bold claim or assertion that is completely untrue and easily disprovable, and just keep repeating it. This never fails to cause massive rage. Obvious, yes, but effective nontheless.

    If you wanted to actually, actually troll this site, the way to go about it would be through walt accusations. Decide everybody (except one or two regulars) is a walt, and let them know it. Then claim to be in 2 para yourself, despite all evidence to the contrary. Perhaps a few bad (obvious) photoshops.

    The real internet superhero trolls (rather than autistic 12 yr old scribblers) would just ddos the site, or perhaps hack it, or set up bots posting BNP threads everywhere. But you'd have to upset them first, which is never gonna happen on arrse.