Trilux sight question.

#1
Out of interest, and at the risk of starting another SLR thread, how were they allocated and who got them?
 
#4
It was a while ago (81) and the guys had to use them. Some left them off others liked them as they give you a bit of magnification when patrolling.
 

OldSnowy

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#5
Was it up to the individual if they were used?
What sort of Army do you think it was in the '70s / '80s? There was no mix-n-match then! :)

If you were issued a SUIT you used it. In the Infantry, at least, there was not really an option, as far as I recall. They were pretty useful, the Tritium provided a decent glow, but the arrow pointing down always seemed odd, and they did not keep their Zero well after being bashed around in LRs, Pigs, people's heads, etc. The spring fitting was not particularly robust, and I was not alone with having it attached via a loose bit of para cord to the rifle stock, just in case...

Personally I preferred the lightly wider foresight blade with a tritium source built-in. Combined with the twin aperture rear sight it made shooting in low light a lot easier, and without the loss of SA you got with the SUIT. SUIT was never intended for use in darkness (that's what the nice little IWS was for) but for use in crepuscular conditions - a word I've never forgotten, and which I try to bring into conversation even now to show how edumacated I am.
 
#6
What sort of Army do you think it was in the '70s / '80s? There was no mix-n-match then! :)

If you were issued a SUIT you used it. In the Infantry, at least, there was not really an option, as far as I recall. They were pretty useful, the Tritium provided a decent glow, but the arrow pointing down always seemed odd, and they did not keep their Zero well after being bashed around in LRs, Pigs, people's heads, etc. The spring fitting was not particularly robust, and I was not alone with having it attached via a loose bit of para cord to the rifle stock, just in case...

Personally I preferred the lightly wider foresight blade with a tritium source built-in. Combined with the twin aperture rear sight it made shooting in low light a lot easier, and without the loss of SA you got with the SUIT. SUIT was never intended for use in darkness (that's what the nice little IWS was for) but for use in crepuscular conditions - a word I've never forgotten, and which I try to bring into conversation even now to show how edumacated I am.
My goodness i am impressed, and i think crepuscular should be used more often its a cracker!!!!!!!!
 
#7
What sort of Army do you think it was in the '70s / '80s? There was no mix-n-match then! :)

If you were issued a SUIT you used it. In the Infantry, at least, there was not really an option, as far as I recall. They were pretty useful, the Tritium provided a decent glow, but the arrow pointing down always seemed odd, and they did not keep their Zero well after being bashed around in LRs, Pigs, people's heads, etc. The spring fitting was not particularly robust, and I was not alone with having it attached via a loose bit of para cord to the rifle stock, just in case...

Personally I preferred the lightly wider foresight blade with a tritium source built-in. Combined with the twin aperture rear sight it made shooting in low light a lot easier, and without the loss of SA you got with the SUIT. SUIT was never intended for use in darkness (that's what the nice little IWS was for) but for use in crepuscular conditions - a word I've never forgotten, and which I try to bring into conversation even now to show how edumacated I am.
Must admit that we , RGJ. were all issued with one, It was personal choice whether you used it and was split about 50/50. Some people thought that it slowed you down when snap shooting but the range package at Lydd gave you plenty of practice. I liked it and always used it.

Re the Zeroing. Yep, they were a bit fragile but that's what the Pipe Range was for...check re using para cord to secure the things, just in case.
 

ugly

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#8
In 83 we were issued ours or rather made to zero ours for an Op Banner tour, I hadnt used mine since arriving in Bn and didnt like the one in Training and we generally didnt use them after training on them at IJLB. The Bn ordered everyone to use it but luckily mine was BLR the week we deployed and as a baton gunner I didnt want to lose the sight when the rifle was slung. It meant that I got the IWS but I only took that out once in 4 months.
In essence on Op Banner policy was everyone was issued in Bn and was supposed to use from CO down. I recall a fair few of us didnt.
 

AlienFTM

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#9
IIRC they were issued to everyone with an SLR when the Unit deployed on Op Banner.
Not the NI Armoured Car Regiment (Omagh). Being cavalry we simply used our inherently better marksmanship skills without relying on newfangled technology.
 

AlienFTM

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#10
for use in crepuscular conditions - a word I've never forgotten, and which I try to bring into conversation even now to show how edumacated I am.
Cats are not nocturnal, they are crepuscular. It seems you and I are better ejumacated than the Firefox spellchecker which offers only corpuscular.
 

AlienFTM

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#14
Sorry thats coprophagia
And you know this because ... ?

Guy walks along, stops, foot hovering. Looks down, sees a brown pile.

"That looks like shit."

He gets to his knees and sniffs. "Smells like shit."

Sticks his finger in. "Feels like shit."

Licks his finger. "Tastes like shit."

"Must be shit. Glad I didn't step in it."

I'll get me coat.
 

ugly

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#15
And you know this because ... ?

Guy walks along, stops, foot hovering. Looks down, sees a brown pile.

"That looks like shit."

He gets to his knees and sniffs. "Smells like shit."

Sticks his finger in. "Feels like shit."

Licks his finger. "Tastes like shit."

"Must be shit. Glad I didn't step in it."

I'll get me coat.
No the young ones and Vivian says I bet that poo tastes like poo, and he was right!
 
#16
I used a SUIT sight. They were issued quite widely in 1RGJ in the seventies. I like them and so did most of the Riflemen who had them. We used them as the situation demanded which was most of the time, but nobody ever said, "where's your SUIT sight?" if somebody wasn't using theirs. Grown up Soldiers and all that!

I never saw one fall completely off in fact I thought they were quite robust pieces of kit. I saw an SLR get accidentally knocked really hard one day and the SUIT sight became dislodged from the mount on the slide cover. If he had shot at someone at 12 o clock, he would have hit somebody else at 10 o clock. He just unclipped it and put it back on again. I dunno if them falling off the SLR was a later problem as the kit got older.

Never had a problem with zeroing either but that might be explained by the fact that we usually zero'd our weapons as often as we could. Of course if you had knocked the weapon and were worried about the zero, you would go and have a word and get on the drain pipe range.

To put the SUIT sight into perspective, it was like giving every Soldier a set of binoculars because all it really was, was half of a X4 binocular on top of your SLR. It was a good bit of kit and it worked well in helping you see things, especially if you were shooting at them.
 

ugly

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#17
I spent a few hours searching for lost ones in NI and the Falklands!
Thankfully none were mine but you still muck in dont you!
 
#18
I spent a few hours searching for lost ones in NI and the Falklands!
Thankfully none were mine but you still muck in dont you!
You would think given where it is on the weapon, they would notice quite quickly that it wasn't there!
 

ugly

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#19
you would think that wouldnt you!
 
#20
Whilst on the subject of sights - at the time (mid to late '70's and early '80's) there was also a tenedancy for some to purchase the single point sight. The grown ups didn't like it though.
 

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