Trident, HS2 is it all worth it?

Would you scrap Trident and HS2 to save £293 Billion

  • Yes to scrap Trident but not HS2

    Votes: 4 3.6%
  • Yes to scrap HS2 but not Trident

    Votes: 70 63.6%
  • Yes to scrap both

    Votes: 7 6.4%
  • Keep both

    Votes: 29 26.4%

  • Total voters
    110
Call me old fashioned but I’d like the ability to catch the train to the continent without having to change at london. Not only is getting into London a pain in the arrse, it’s full of people I’d rather have as limited interaction with them as possible.

HS1 has its neigh sayers, as did computerisation, containerisation, the jet engine, the railways and canals.
Lord Adonis on something or other yesterday, said there always was in the project a plan to connect the 500m between Euston and St Pancreas by a tunnel, but wasn't planned to start until the whole thing has been pretty much complete.

He said it was costed at £2bn, which considering the estimated cost of the project is doubling twice that each year, is rather small change.
 
Evan at the full £100 Billion, HS isn't terribly expensive… Its £5 Billion a year over 20 years


Equivalent to the 'acceptable waste' of most Government departments.
 
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Lord Adonis on something or other yesterday, said there always was in the project a plan to connect the 500m between Euston and St Pancreas by a tunnel, but wasn't planned to start until the whole thing has been pretty much complete.

He said it was costed at £2bn, which considering the estimated cost of the project is doubling twice that each year, is rather small change.
Lord Adonis is just bitter about brexit
 

Kevll@r

Clanker
You can take that £100 BILLION and triple it. And it'll be 25 years before a train runs on the thing. £300 billion, for a train line. To put that in context, both aircraft carriers were £6.2 billion. So you could have 42 aircraft carriers for the price of a train set.
 

Kevll@r

Clanker
As for Trident, if anyone thinks that the USA will trade New York and California for Berlin and London is mistaken. A use of tactical nuclear weapons on mainland Europe will escalate, and when it comes down to it, the US will back away and only our own guaranteed response will cause the Russians pause for thought.
 

Yokel

LE
As for Trident, if anyone thinks that the USA will trade New York and California for Berlin and London is mistaken. A use of tactical nuclear weapons on mainland Europe will escalate, and when it comes down to it, the US will back away and only our own guaranteed response will cause the Russians pause for thought.
Yes that was very much the reason for Britain (and also France) having our own deterrent. The Soviets (and Russia under Putin) desires decoupling the European NATO nations from the United States. The possession of Polaris/Trident by the UK was to act as part of NATO, and to reassure allies.
 

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