TRI-SERVICE ARMY

#1
Quick question.

Would the Army,Navy,RAF be able to be fully intergrated,wear the same cap badge and would it work?

Over to you.......
 
#4
bleepster said:
QUICK QUESTION.

I AM RESEARCHING INFORMATION ON A PROJECT.CAN THE ARMY,RAF,NAVY BR FULLY A INTERGRATED ARMED FORCE AND COME UNDER ONE CAP BADGE.

WOULD IT WORK?

OVER TO YOU.
ASK A CANADAN!

(CLUE: NO)
 
#7
Ask a Canadian.
 
#9
What's your name?. John Reid.
 
#10
Did they tell you ? In short the whole of HM Forces are based on tradition .If the Navy,Army and RAF became as one
the whole thing would lose its identity .We are all run totally different with vast differences in doctraine , manning,
uniform ,tradition, skills,thats just skimming the surface .By your question i can tell you have never served in the forces
or this is a wah . I am sure there are many more intelligent members than me on arrse who can answer your question
in a more ''academic'' style so i will let them carry on . I do have question for you . Are you a journo????
 
#11
USMC anyone? They do it, and do it pretty well. OK so they have no deep-blue capability, but the rest of it is pretty much there.

This is probably worthy of more serious debate (as long as them in green wear the trousers!)
 
#12
i don't think it would work. Even though we all have the same basic military skills , we have different trades which are needed in different areas.

I mean , would you fancy the idea of me flying a plane near your house??????????
 
#13
IrishDoris said:
i don't think it would work. Even though we all have the same basic military skills , we have different trades which are needed in different areas.

I mean , would you fancy the idea of me flying a plane near your house??????????
Uh??? We seem to manage with different trades within our services at present, in case you hadn't noticed.
 
#15
I think the USMC is a good model for our expeditionary based force structure....and I can't think of a single corporate cultural aspect of the RAF that is worth retaining. The officers are chavs, the airmen are all gay, and they p1ss away a disproportionate amount of the defence budget on planes which don't have ground attack capability. And (did I mention this?)..they're gay as a Liberal Democrat contender in a Turkish Bath. With a Maglite up his arse.
 
#16
bleepster said:
Quick question.

Would the Army,Navy,RAF be able to be fully intergrated,wear the same cap badge and would it work?

Over to you.......
In the short term, NO. History has proven that, as with numerous reforms, cuts and amalgamations over the preceeding 300+ years, those serving would get on with it and make it work.

dogmonkey said:
USMC anyone? They do it, and do it pretty well. OK so they have no deep-blue capability, but the rest of it is pretty much there.

This is probably worthy of more serious debate (as long as them in green wear the trousers!)
And their beauty is that they were / are all one Corps, and therefore have a single ethos. We would take decades to achieve that and would suffer operationally in the interim. However, it could be achieved in the very long term.

Although the Army currently have their own Air Force.

The Navy have their own Army and Air Force.

The Air Force have their own Army
........argueably we are already en route but dont know it yet.
 
#17
GROWNUPS_BEWARE said:
...and I can't think of a single corporate cultural aspect of the RAF that is worth retaining. The officers are chavs, the airmen are all gay, and they p1ss away a disproportionate amount of the defence budget on planes which don't have ground attack capability...
Although, as I understand it, op Sqns are as parochial and Regimental-system as much of the Army. Which does work as a concept. Besides which, have you talked to any of the Harrier Mafia airmen? The people I know are more than happy helping deliver GR-capability; Inf win wars, and all that. If they had the budget to deploy as per the Harrier Force's old doctrine they'd do it - and, obviously, moan out of the side of their mouths about being cold and wet and hungry and tired and bored and pissed off with the bone orders... just like everyone else in HMF. Please don't toss every crab into the same bucket on account of differing doctrines, MoD/political priorities, etc.

... or have I just bitten?


M_M
 
#18
Mr_Mitty said:
GROWNUPS_BEWARE said:
...and I can't think of a single corporate cultural aspect of the RAF that is worth retaining. The officers are chavs, the airmen are all gay, and they p1ss away a disproportionate amount of the defence budget on planes which don't have ground attack capability...
Although, as I understand it, op Sqns are as parochial and Regimental-system as much of the Army. Which does work as a concept. Besides which, have you talked to any of the Harrier Mafia airmen? The people I know are more than happy helping deliver GR-capability; Inf win wars, and all that. If they had the budget to deploy as per the Harrier Force's old doctrine they'd do it - and, obviously, moan out of the side of their mouths about being cold and wet and hungry and tired and bored and pissed off with the bone orders... just like everyone else in HMF. Please don't toss every crab into the same bucket on account of differing doctrines, MoD/political priorities, etc.

... or have I just bitten?


M_M
No you haven't M_M.

Having worked closely with the current Harrier Mafia airmen they are genuinely on side for the Inf and are always keen to play/provide support for Exs. Also, as i was with them on TELIC, i can say that they worked their colective nuts off to help the wider army.

Now the RAF Regt...that's a different story :wink:

F
 
#20
paveway_3 said:
Did they tell you ? In short the whole of HM Forces are based on tradition .If the Navy,Army and RAF became as one
the whole thing would lose its identity .We are all run totally different with vast differences in doctraine , manning,
uniform ,tradition, skills,thats just skimming the surface .By your question i can tell you have never served in the forces
or this is a wah . I am sure there are many more intelligent members than me on arrse who can answer your question
in a more ''academic'' style so i will let them carry on . I do have question for you . Are you a journo????
No not a journo, still a serving soldier but as mentioned i am doing research for a essay about the subject.

I put this question out due to the vast peaple and opinions of the audience on this site.
 

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