Treadmill training

#1
If you had a target, to say, run 1.5 miles in 8 minutes, you could set the treadmill at the required speed and then run til you drop. You could then progressively build up the time, until you can run for 8 minutes at this speed.

Seems simple. Anyone with experience of training using this method?
 
#2
If you had a target, to say, run 1.5 miles in 8 minutes, you could set the treadmill at the required speed and then run til you drop. You could then progressively build up the time, until you can run for 8 minutes at this speed.

Seems simple. Anyone with experience of training using this method?
But what would you do when it comes to running in "reality" with wind resistance, rain, cold, heat etc
 
#3
Set it on a min of 2% inclince, or the natural inertia of the belt will carry you. Speak to your 'Corps' man in the gym for a PFA programme (there is an equation chart for run times etc).

Just seen you haven't joined yet! Speak to your local gym queen in 'Civ Div'.
 
#4
If you had a target, to say, run 1.5 miles in 8 minutes, you could set the treadmill at the required speed and then run til you drop. You could then progressively build up the time, until you can run for 8 minutes at this speed.

Seems simple. Anyone with experience of training using this method?
I tried it, thinking it was a great idea, what can go wrong, etc. It's crap and doesn't work - improvement was very slow and I ended up hanging out very fast indeed. What you want to do is do it on the ground (unless you're being tested on a treadmill) because the technique is so different (not to mention that running on a treadmill is basically a test of determination rather than fitness) and do 400m joints at the right speed, but with rests in between. To improve, cut down the rest time. If you are being tested on a treadmill, by all means try it, but for running on the grass or tarmac the way you actually run is very different and you'll probably find you run far slower.

EDIT: what he said above mitigates the usual treadmill problems to a point. RM fitness tests are done on that incline for that reason.
 
#7
If you had a target, to say, run 1.5 miles in 8 minutes, you could set the treadmill at the required speed and then run til you drop. You could then progressively build up the time, until you can run for 8 minutes at this speed.

Seems simple. Anyone with experience of training using this method?
I've never been able to do an 8 minute 1.5 mile.

Closest I got was 8:20 about 5 years ago.

But I know your method is the slow painful way to build up speed. Go for a longer distance, say 3 miles, and spend parts of that 3 miles sprinting, it's so much easier than trying to improve the speed by just doing the required distance as fast as you can all the time.

I'm not, nor have I ever been a PTI.
 
#8
If you had a target, to say, run 1.5 miles in 8 minutes, you could set the treadmill at the required speed and then run til you drop. You could then progressively build up the time, until you can run for 8 minutes at this speed.

Seems simple. Anyone with experience of training using this method?
No, however i have heard of this method being attempted, However your forgetting factors already stated and I prefer treadmill training to outdoor's but you have to compensate,

(IMO) I do not believe for one minute that treadmill running is any worse than running outdoors on tarmac etc.
 
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#9
I am a regular user of treadmills, and find that the more incline and speed you use the more of a work out you'll get. I also use it when ever i've injured myself by pulling a calf muscle,which happens some what due to and old injury i have. Running on tarmac can be very unforgiving where as the treadmill will help you due to it flexing some what. It's a good idea to use it to help you gain more speed, but i also think you need to run on the road and set a distance and just keep pushing yourself with the timing issue. I agree with beemer, you do have to compensate. I run with ankle wieghts and a patrol pack as well as having the machine on a incline....they do help some what but also train outdoors as well. Sorry for any miss spelt words...
 
#10
The treadmill is much more forgiving on the joints than tarmac, I know as my cartlidges are in bits and I know im in a lot less pain after the treadmill than I am after running on the roads.

There are a few advantages of running on the treadmill but not many, one thing that I do if I have to run on the treadmill i.e the weather is far too bad to run on the road etc is do hill reps. I will warm up gradully for 5 min and then in 1 min intervals I will do hill work alternated with flat recovery jogging for 2 mins. This will improve your speed and endurance quite well and is a decent way of getting a good run on a treadmill.
 
#12
#14
I would probably refer to sprints/jogging intervals on the flat as fartlek. Another great way of improving your speed quite significantly.
 
#16
Treadmills...

Do you know your run time on tarmac, concrete, grass or track? Or just on a treadmill? Your wasting your time indoors!

Watch as people as they are dazzled in amazement as their run time does match what they did on a treadmill...
 
#17
Does anyone else find it far harder to run on treadmills than on the road, bordem factor kills me on a treadmill. I can feel myself getting fitter everyday im on leave but its just one huge sheet of ice outside. (Before anyone calls me a fat pie eating ****, im not. I have been to the gym just not as much as i would on camp)
 
#18
Does anyone else find it far harder to run on treadmills than on the road, bordem factor kills me on a treadmill. I can feel myself getting fitter everyday im on leave but its just one huge sheet of ice outside. (Before anyone calls me a fat pie eating ****, im not. I have been to the gym just not as much as i would on camp)
Yeah me, I can't manage more than 3 miles on a treadmill, as soon as I start to get tired I quit, rather than fight through it, the boredom is the main factor for the lack of motivation, staring at the same peice of wall.

Usually I do a couple of miles then move onto something else.
 
#19
I find treadmill running harder than running outside.
Outside I can do a 6 mile run in 53 minutes, inside its a 10 minute miler

However at this time of year its a lot safer than running outside.

Last week I was training and decided to turn it up a bit, did 1st miles best effort, second mile average pace and last was fartlek, 1st minute dead slow (just above walking pace) second minute fast

Repeared this until my fast was 9.8 mph for one minute.

The idea is to be unable to walk to your car.

Treadmill training has its uses, for example if you need to know exactly how far you ran, or if you need to do hill training but live on a flood plain.

Its important to mix it up with outdoor training, best way to get faster is to get a training partner.
 
#20
My orthopedic surgeon.

Fair enough if that is the opinion of a medical expert in that field so I am not in the position to argue.

Having had knee surgery myself though I know that running on the treadmill for me is much less painfull at times than running on the road when I am suffering with my knees.
 
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