Travers Murder - Tragic Mistake Say Sinn Fein

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  1. HHH

    HHH LE

    Read more: Anger over Sinn Fein aide McArdle's murder regrets - Technology & Gadgets, Life & Style -

    A mistake is not how I would describe cold blooded murder.
  2. I've been following this on RTE where I've heard Ann Travers speak about the death her sister. Tom and Mary Travers Th were shot outside the Catholic church they worshipped at. Tom survived the attack but Mary was killed at the scene. It should be noted that Tom Travers was a junior magistrate and therefore considered (apparently) by the IRA to be a 'legitimate' target although he dealt with relatively minor offences. Sinn Fein has previously said that the murder was 'regrettable but understandable' given the context of the situation at the time. Mary McArdle was convicted of the murder as she was caught red-handed concealing the weapons used in the murder.

    It should be noted that Mary McArdle has never been elected by anyone (her boss has, which although distasteful to many, is a product of the Good Friday Agreement). She (McArdle) has been appointed to the government of NI as an adviser to a department that is responsible for all cultural matters in the six counties. She is, to the best of my knowledge, the only convicted murderer in the UK or Ireland in the pay of the state.

    As an Irishman (albeit in the British Army) this decision makes my blood boil. A fair number of my countrymen feel exactly the same including many of those who consider themselves to be of the nationalist persuasion. I have also heard some republicans denounce the apointment as a clear mistake.

    To conclude, Ann Travers and her mother, have more courage in their toenail clippings than Mary McArdle possesses in the entirity of her being. To appoint McArdle to a public role is a sickening and insulting decision on Sinn Fein's part. It is craven of them to defend it in the manner that they have and dishonours the memory of a 22 year old woman murdered (on purpose - not an accident!). It makes me feel physically sick.

    Apologies for the rant and, by the way, I don't feel better.
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  3. skid2

    skid2 LE Book Reviewer

    It's unusual that the Shinners screw up this badly when it comes to PR. Any complaining or dissent is usually deflected by the claim that the dissenter is an enemy of the peace process. Which is a line they have used with some success in the past it just failed miserably this time. Spectacularly when a Shinner maintained that there was a war on, it was a time of conflict........So you send two gunmen to murder a schoolteacher and her father as they're leaving church and this carries on the war aims how?.
    Claims that it was a mistake have also fallen on deaf ears. It stretches the description of mistake to include the deliberate targeting of a girl because of who her father was. (She was shot again as she lay on the ground) Maybe they meant that it was a mistake to execute her in front of witnesses. It's not often you get to see Sinn Fein The Party of Peace rattled, but the dignity of Anne Travers and her unwillingness to accept the Shinners rewritng of history would be a treat, if it wasn't so miserably squalid.
    If young McArdle is so consumed with remorse over her mistake, why doesn't she tell the authorities who did the shooting?. After all, the armed struggle is over, under the GFA whoever did it will get wheeled in and wheeled back out again and they too can put it behind them and keep moving forward in support of the peace process.
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  4. Alsacien

    Alsacien LE Moderator

    No need for apologies, you are saying what any decent person familiar with the issue thinks.

  5. I hope this comes back and bites Sinn Fein on the arse, although it will be little consolation to the Travers family.
  6. To think people who once voted for the SDLP(although a party against my view on the Union, but in my opinion a credible political party) now vote for a party who not only seek taxpayers to employ, their military wings membership at government level, but murdered more Catholics than any other denomination during the troubles, a section of the community in Northern Ireland they claimed to defend.

    How anybody with any moral conviction can vote for that party is beyond me. The woman in question is a dirty scumbag bitch and along with her other comrade Marian Price, should have been put on a forced hungerstrike until death.

    But then I'm slightly biased.
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  7. LancePrivateJones

    LancePrivateJones LE Book Reviewer

    Sinn Fein will just bullshit their way out of it as usual.

    Do you think they Really give a ****?

    If they did they wouldn't have appointed this murdering piece of shit in the first place.

    Just in case anybody missed it, they appointed her knowing full well what the reaction would be.

    Edited to add : And she accepted the position knowing full well what the reaction would be. Mistake my arse.
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  8. one of sf's apologists blamed the Brits. on ie politics.
    seems the shooter was a Brit agent killed the daughter on purpose to make the IRA look bad.
    with that sort of ability to twist the truth you've no hope:(

  9. That`s true Geroid agus Martain et al couldnt give a flying fcuk. It was jobs for the boys (or in this case girls), just as a recognition for their part in the struggle. Next thing you`ll know the Loughgall 8 will be ressurected and stood in the local elections.
  10. LancePrivateJones

    LancePrivateJones LE Book Reviewer

    Just be patient.......

    As Brighton Hippy has mentioned, Shit Fein are already lying their mouths out and blaming us nasty Brits.

    What a ******* surprise.
  11. HHH

    HHH LE

    No need to apologise, it is what any decent person thinks.
    Sinn Fein have become so used, to no one really holding them to account for their past actions, that I think they never even thought about the appointment. Unfortunately for them, they never took into account Ann Travers, feelings, and more importantly her determination to hold them to account for it, and speak out publicly, about it.
  12. although somebody pointed out they lost and lost badly.
    so giving jobs to the boys means there not running off to join I can't believe its the IRA.

    sucks but Irish armed Republicanism isn't something you can defeat with logic or bullets.
    with enough bullets you could bury it for a generation but it would come back twice as nasty:(
    even with a united Ireland wouldn't solve the problem as it wouldn't be the Celtic Irish speaking socialist paradise of myth:(
  13. From the description it sounds more like the ira were trying to really scare those that would 'aid the enemy'. They deliberatly killed the targets family, or atempted to.

    This piece of sh1t should be forced out of the government over there, and told to bubble the scum who turned their weapons on their own people. People whom they were supposed to be defending from their 'enemies'...

    Alas, chances are she's said her Hail Marys and got her 'forgiveness'.

    Even now they are still targeting Catholics... the PSNI bobbie killed not too long ago was Catholic. To scare oher Catholics from joining, so they can complain there are no Catholics in the PSNI perhaps? Jus like the 70/80s wher ethey burnt Catholic RUC men out of their homes.
  14. HHH

    HHH LE

  15. skid2

    skid2 LE Book Reviewer

    Travers murder upgraded from mistake to wrong by Deputy First Minister (Bound to be a linky along eventually)
    If this keeps up young McArdle wil have retired on health grounds by this time next week.