Transport Police stop more Asians

#1
It would appear that the BTP have stopped more Asians of late, according to the BBC.



The BTP deny that there has been any change in policy:

People of Asian appearance were five times more likely than white people to be questioned and made up the greatest proportion of those stopped.
Good to see that Fungus' team are supporting BTP Chief Constable Ian Johnston as well:

Remarks by Mr Johnston last month that as a result of the London bomb attacks stops "may be disproportionate when it comes to ethnic groups" and that police should not "waste time searching old white ladies" were initially supported by Home Office minister Hazel Blears.

However, Muslim and civil liberties groups both condemned the comments and Ms Blears later said she had "never, ever endorsed" the use of racial profiling.
Back pedal, back pedal....
 
#2
why dont you go outside and play darthy? you are obviously reading the bbc website far too thorooughly......................
 
#4
I am reminded of the film 'Good Morning Vietnam'
Cronauer asks 'are u charlie but no-one says yes so the gi's can't capture them'
I doubt many would own up to being POTENTIAL BOMBERS, but the law enforcement have to start at some point
 
#5
Without wishing to sound too un-PC, so what?

Facts are that the average caucasian is not the most likely Muslim suicide bomber.

There, I have said it. I will now step away from the fizzling blue touch paper.
 
#6
Remind me again which part of the subcontinent is Somalia in?

If anything at least stop and search should help to restore some confidence over the fight against terrorism.
By the way what is exactly do they mean by 'Asian appearance', slightly tanned people from say Brazil?
 
#7
If you were going to get really **** about profiling all Muslims to be of an Asian cast, Chechians(sp?) are caucasian and Muslim and fair few of them are total nutters. But if you were to apply statistics to Muslims in Britain I'm sure the vasy majority would be of Asian appearance, therefore it's not unreasonable to be vigilent and stop more asians who are acting suspiously surely?. Just like most IRA terrorists where caucasion and had Irish accents, were we being racists stopping white Irishmen?.

This is all the usual crap that some dodgy Muslims are trying to play the race card to force the Police into becoming to scared to stop a person of Asian apperance, or wearing a rag, in the fear they will get rapped for racial profiling, mean while Ahmed gets away wearing Vest, Explosive MK1.
 
#8
But if the police have increased their attention towards one particular group in particular' what's to stop Ahmad the terroist mastermind just recruiting some suicide bomber whose ethnicity won't make the police immediately suspect him/her?
If your going to use stop and search, you should factor in all possibilities.

Edited to take in RB concerns.
 
#9
The title of the thread says 'Transport Police stop MORE Asians', not 'Transport Police stop ONLY Asians'.
Unfortunately some people seem unable to tell the difference.
 
#10
RedRabbit said:
The title of the thread says 'Transport Police stop MORE Asians', not 'Transport Police stop ONLY Asians'.
Unfortunately some people seem unable to tell the difference.
My fault - 'should have wrote if the police have increased their attention towards one group in particular' :oops:
 
#11
No problem, castlereagh, I appreciate what you're saying.
What I was trying to say, though, was that all we have is a slight shift in a bar chart. If the numbers of white/black had dwindled to next to nothing I, too, might have concerns, but that's not what the chart is showing.
 

Ventress

LE
Moderator
#12
Being stood on a platform for 4 hours a day, I search anyone who raises my suspicions. All criteria laid down by PACE. I explain to the individual who I am why I stopped them and on what grounds. What powers I am using and what I am looking for. Everyone is stopped and searched on their own merits and grounds. I dont care if they are purple with blue spots. If a passenger entering a station, looks uneasy, sweating and carrying a big rucksack then they get stopped. Oh and they get a record of the stop.- if they want one.

The PC brigade would be soon be moaning when their offices are blown up! But then again not a bad thing!
 
#13
Last series of posts deleted.
 
#14
Never mind the 'potential terrorist' tag. In my opinion the Police should stop Asian motorists as in my experience they are far more likely to be uninsured/unroadworthy/without tax etc. I know of numerous characters who until the introduction of photocard driving licences used to share one. If I was a copper I'd stop them.

Before anyone starts ranting about proof take a look in the court briefs of any local newspaper from an area with a large asian community.

And no it's not just sour grapes because the council wouldn't let me turn my basement into a temple.
 
#15
Lairdx , you are absolutley correct in your assumptions. You might also wonder how someone could take a UK driving test with not a word of English. A friend of mine was put into a coma , and is now 25% alloy, thanks to a minicab driver who fled to Pakistan the following morning. Eventually, he was apprehended. It is not the only occasion that something like this has happened.

I absolutely agree.
 
#16
Shock, horror, probe dog bites man!!!

Another hectic day at DGD+D then Darth?

* gym closed for repairs is it?
* bit rainy out on the airfield perhaps??

You can see why he didn't follow his old man.........
 
#17
Arrse.... I'm from N.I ....

For twenty odd years if I wanted to get on an aeroplane from mainland UK I had to go to my own "special" feckin' terminal. Why?

Because the principle threat to the security of the nation came from people of my "ethnicity"... Deal with it.

If you accept that there is a current terrorist threat to the United Kingdom you must also accept that it comes from a group of people who are mainly of one particular ethnicity.

Bottom line is... profiling works.
 
#18
Sky News have been running with this all moring - cue Asian reporter, cunningly disguised in cap with rucksack (I kid you not), wandering about the same London terminals until eventually stopped:

I've been here for 4 hours and stopped 3 times
whinged our intrepid seeker of truth. I think he was lucky it was so few times!

Brown Bloke (above) makes an excellent point about 'racial profiling' - in NI, we would always stop IC1 males, 18-35, and if they were from the Falls Rd - well, a field day ensued rapidly. I remember our multiple stopping the same man 5 times in one day in Armagh City - and I know the other multiples picked him up as well.

The police have an unenviable job as ever - damned if they do, damned if they don't.
 
#20
Dear Ventress,

I'm sporting a particularly unfeasible tan at the moment. I'm also a tube user (fnaar fnaar). Whilst I haven't graduated to casual rucksack wearing as yet, I am starting to feel slightly concerned whether I might appear too ethnic for my cat (poor pussy, poor pussycat) - and thus fall within the BTP's pie chart requirements. Are my fears justified?

Worried of Elmsett.
 

Similar threads

Latest Threads

Top