transfering from inf to somewhere real

#1
i joined the inf in my early 20`s like two other guys who are in the same boat as me, we would like to know if there is a time served limit to stop us transfering to another unit,  ie a corps, we are 35,36 and 36 we have all done 14 years in the inf, and have heard rumours that we have served to long in our current unit to be able to transefer as we only have 8 years left to offer to somone else....is there a limit or is there anything stopping us from moving?  also would we loose our rank or keep it??
 
#2
Mate

Try this one for starters

http://www.army.mod.uk/servingsoldier/career/usefulinfo/transfers/ss_cmd_tfr_w.html

BTW 8 years is optimistic - transerring takes time waiting for paperwork, suitability assessments, course loading and re-training.

Read the link for yourself and have a good skeg at relevant DCIs etc.  Obviously chat to the lads already wearing the cap-badge you're after, at every rank.

FFS think long and hard and be certain why you're going for a Corps.   If it's a trade make sure the qual is civvy recognised as well as a skill in demand.   And be bloody careful anyway.  The highest turnover rate for any Corps is the same as the rest of the Army, i.e.  Pte - Cpl - so that's ideally what they'll want as transferees.  

Very few Corps will take you at your present rank.  Even if they do, you'll be put very firmly at the back of the queue for any promotion and gucci in-Corps courses - for a number of reasons that will NOT be made obvious to you.

I say again: be bloody careful.  Treat a Corps like you treat NI - nobody's your fcuking mate.
 
#3
Just had two new B3 clerks arrive in my unit.  BOTH SGTS!

One Ex-REME, other Ex-RA

The AGC is crying out for blokes (and gals), so if this is what flicks your switch then have a word with your RAO who will brief you up on eligibility.
 
#4
transerring takes time waiting for paperwork, suitability assessments, course loading and re-training.
Not necessarily, I had an Engr from my unit apply to transfer to the AGC last Jan and he was posted back to us last July (fully B3'd up!).
 
#5
SW

Hopefully these guys can make a decision based on digging for info on best case / worst case scenarios - at the end of the day it all depends what they wannabe.

Must admit I'm surprised that a Sgt can stand as a B3
Clerk... I would have thought that rank would be linked to B1.   Evidently, not the case.

AGC ought to be slicker than most at processing the paperwork though !
 
#6
Must admit I'm surprised that a Sgt can stand as a B3
Clerk... I would have thought that rank would be linked to B1.   Evidently, not the case.
They used to send the more senior (crusty?) transfer in soldiers straight on B3, B2, B1 but they now have to serve in the unit for 6 months before going back to Worthless Down.

As an aside, I know of one Sgt who transferred into the AGC about 18 months/2 years ago and he has just come off the Staffies board!!
 
#8
Excellent post exmarine.  I can see you fully utilised the Education Centre when you were serving. :p

Perhaps the chaps would like to something with their lives when they leave the service. Changing trades or Corps is a good way to learn something new and gain qualifications. They will be more attractive to employees if thay can show continued learning throughout their career, it shows thay can be retrained easily, should they want to try something new.

Anyone who wants to transfer - to or from any Corps / Arm should think carefully, it ain't easy.  If you think it's the right thing - go for it.  The only people who will give you any crap are those too stupid or scared to do anything themselves.
 
#9
Actually I utilised  Education before I joined up and fail to see how becoming  a rear end chump with the AGC will enhance any bodies education. LOL.

I just detest any army which thinks that the infantry is not real and places its brains on its ass.

Chris
 
#10
 "I just detest any army which thinks that the infantry is not real and places its brains on its ass."
 


No one is suggesting that the army's brains are in it's ass, this thread is about changing jobs during your career.
Marines can do it but stay within capbadge, in the army you change badges - big deal.  

Did you slag off Royal Marines clerks?
 
#12
The infantry is not real Unquote.

I am sorry but this statement was a red flag to a bull. I actually do understand the horses for courses rule.

What I do feel strongly about is that on recruitment the better lads are head hunted for other arms.

To be a good infantryman requires many attributes, being bone is not one of them.

The British army still has a cannon fodder attitude, that is why Para regt is always covering your ass.

I feel sorry for your Infantry which gets treated like sh#t.


Chris
 
#13
As someone who knows some extraordinarily bright and well educated infantry types (both soldiers and officers - it's a long story......), I have a basic curiosity about this brain vs brawn debate. Is there an argument emerging ever more strongly that, with the evolution of armed conflict being conducted in ever more increasing complex and politically sensitive arenas, with the addition of the increasingly complex factor of technology added to the equation - that the 'grunt' no longer exists? That the infantry soldier ( who now takes and holds ground in a fluid, dynamic, multi-cultural, fast-changing, politically-aware, potentially revolutionary sceanario) is, in fact, required to be more intelligent and sensitive (and educated?) than his/her 'technical' compadres?
 
#14
that the 'grunt' no longer exists? That the infantry soldier ( who now takes and holds ground in a fluid, dynamic, multi-cultural, fast-changing, politically-aware, potentially revolutionary sceanario)
To be frank, there are very few places now in todays Army where a soldier does not have to pull his weight. The pressure of rules of engagement, highly technical equipment and short training cycles means that we need soldiers who can assimilate information quickly and understand the wider implications of their actions.

The evidence of the high standards of our soldiers not only in the Infantry but in all Regiments and Corps is plain to see when we compare them against other nations operating in a highly volatile situation as found in the recent Gulf War. We have much to be proud of.
 
#15
We have much to be proud of. The british Army does. Don't get me wrong, I work in a multi national environment and see all the rest of the tosh.

But you do treat your infantry like doggy pooh compared to other branches.

They are the army all else exists to support them and not the other way around.

Chris
 
#16
exmarine - I think I must be thick, as I cannot find anyone on this thread that said the infantry is not real (apart from in the title, written by an infanteer) except you!

I think you may have a bit of a complex old boy!

By the way, I am currently serving with an infantry bn, and they certainly are not treated like crap.  They get their fair share of bone jobs, so does everyone else.  
 
#18
i am in an if Bn and i have been for 14 years and believe me it is becoming unbearable.............not to the extent of suicide.  we have to adjust ourselfs in various ways to adapt to the new breed of soldiers.....(no not soldiers...but blokes who join seemigly because they cant do bugger all else in civvy street and think this is an easy way out or something)..... with a non proffessional attitude, so with thier moaning and whinning me along with others have to put up with the crap that they make which is bollocks to say the least.....why should i have to suffer for the sake of ......jokes....id rather go back 10 years or go someplace else, with the latter being the suitable option....if you dont agree thats ok....your not in my Bn
 
#19
22 year Lance jack...I think that’s the whole point of what I read between the lines (of your wanting to jack it in after 14 years) and why I make that point again.

The Army must be crap to allow its Infantry to get in this state.

That’s a generalisation for sure and a tadge unfair.... but to Ramillies and co...........look closer...and look after your men...especially the Infantry, not the usual blanket statements about another professional job done carry on what ho!

As for other jobs in the forces what ever turns you on.

But please look after your infantry.

There is the gripe that airborne get all the jobs…this could be why.

Quote...(no not soldiers...but blokes who join seemigly because they cant do bugger all else in civvy street and think this is an easy way out or something)... with a non proffessional attitude. Unqote

I say again why is the careers service putting all the sh#ite the Infantryman’s way.

Chris
 
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