Transfer

#1
I'm thinking about transfering into a different unit but I'm not to sure how to get the ball rolling. When I go into the unit I'm thinking of moving to, do they request all my med records and whatever else or do I have to go to my current unit and speak to my CoC to get the ball rolling?

Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers.
 
#2
Is this due to re-location, unhappiness or something else?

msr
 
#3
Altogether now:

ASK YOUR PSI!
 
#4
What do you do now?
Why do you want to change?
Where do you want to go?
Are you within your proposed new units/jobs criteria?
Have you informed your gaffa yet?
Have you contacted/visited your proposed new unit yet?
 
#5
Due to a huge change in circumstances and partly being unhappy/disillitioned with the unit I'm in at the minute. I've telephoned the PSI at the unit I would like to go to and I'm going in to see him on Friday. I was just looking to get abit more clued up on how transfers work and how long it normally takes for them to go through.
 

RP578

LE
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#6
DarkNinja said:
Altogether now:

ASK YOUR PSI!
PSIs are not involved in this process. Indeed being Regular soldiers they will probably have less of an idea than you.

Go visit the unit that you wish to transfer to. You'll more than likely have an interview with their OC at some stage to see if you are their sort of chap/chapess. Once they are happy to have you, go back to your current unit and request a transfer from your OC. A formal email is one way of doing it, and has the added benefit of instantaneously allowing you to notify your CSM and Platoon Commander by CCing them in.

Shortly thereafter you'll likely be called in to speak with the OC. S/He will probably want to know reasons why and to see if you're sure about going ahead before he signs off on the paperwork, which he will then forwards on to either Glasgow or the receiving unit (can't remember which order they do it in). The whole thing used to be able to be completed within a month if both ends were on the ball, but in this JPA age, who knows how quickly it can be done?
 
#7
I might add that some units, or at least the one in my case, may require you to attend a selection weekend to assess your suitability for their unit. Depending how often these run, it may lengthen the transfer process. Granted, I don't know if the unit you have in mind does this (and I don't know how many other units do this).
 
#8
I would strongly recommend speaking to your current unit before going to visit another one.

msr
 
#9
Having transfered myself from a corps unit to an infantry unit i found the process smooth. all i did was speak to my W02 and say i want to transfer, he said ok had a talk and gave me a transfer form to fill in an return. The rest was carried out by my old and new unit which was about 2months. All your documents are sent to your new unit (p file: which includes medicals and course reports). The reason why it can take months is due to the fact your JPA has to be transferred and come up on the books of the new unit.

However before speaking to anyone about my transfer i went to the unit i wished to be with and had an interview with their 2IC.

My transfer was a complete change of capbadge, therefore i cannot say that only moving location within your current capbadge is as smooth. I have indeed heard its a longer process.
 
#10
robbo86 said:
I'm thinking about transfering into a different unit but I'm not to sure how to get the ball rolling. When I go into the unit I'm thinking of moving to, do they request all my med records and whatever else or do I have to go to my current unit and speak to my CoC to get the ball rolling?

Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers.
I have read some of your previous posts about not being involved with the trained soldiers. i can relate heavily to this, and i hated the fact that even when i was a trained and traded soldier my troop and the rest of the squadron were i thought "unsoldier like" and massively weak. Once i transfered to the infantry it was the best move i made since joining the TA.

Different bunch of lads compared to the previous bunch and it doesnt matter if you are a recruit or trained soldier, you are in the same battalion and have the same lessons unless it was specific e.g Mortars.

Mabey you should do the opposite and transfer from the Infantry to the Corps.
 

RP578

LE
Book Reviewer
#11
the_creature said:
Mabey you should do the opposite and transfer from the Infantry to the Corps.
I'm going to echo what the_creature just wrote. Like him I transferred from a Corps to the Infantry and got what I had always wanted out of being in the Army. For others, including you, it might be the other way around and a Corps unit might float your boat more than current callsign. It's why it is always better to shop around and go with what you're happiest with rather than just plumping for your local unit.
 
#12
Obtain (from your PSAO or AO, your PSI is unlikely to have any) and fill out part A & B of an AFE 7547 (Application to transfer), pass through CoC to your OC for completion at Part C (he may or may not interview you, depends if he can be arrsed). Either take this to your new unit yourself or ask your current unit to forward it on. Make contact with the new unit you wish to join, explaining that you either have the form and wish to transfer or you wish to transfer and your current unit is posting the form. Your new OC completes Part D and forwards to APC for JPA action. JPA action usually takes a couple of weeks depending on how efficient the desk officer at the gaining unit is. Delays in the process are more commonly down to OCs leaving the form in their in-trays for weeks on end....
 
#14
Took over a brand new cadre of SUTs this weekend.

One bloke - I'll not say what kind of unit he was from - but this Craftsman had been trying to get to the ITC for a year, and had continually been knocked back by his unit. When he finally DID arrive, he was so hacked off he self-RTU'd at breakfast saturday.

I also overheard a conversation detailing how the SUTs at that unit ( pretty sure it was the same one ) spent their Drill Nights first-parading vehicles.

Pretty sure thats not on CMS(R) or whatever it is this week.
 
#15
Bravo_Bravo said:
Took over a brand new cadre of SUTs this weekend.

One bloke - I'll not say what kind of unit he was from - but this Craftsman had been trying to get to the ITC for a year, and had continually been knocked back by his unit. When he finally DID arrive, he was so hacked off he self-RTU'd at breakfast saturday.

I also overheard a conversation detailing how the SUTs at that unit ( pretty sure it was the same one ) spent their Drill Nights first-parading vehicles.

Pretty sure thats not on CMS(R) or whatever it is this week.
with all the cuts extras our unit had about 3 months of SUT not knowing what was going on and PSI/Troop staff not keeping them updated,

but the ball is rolling once again all be it a funny shaped ball now
 
#16
I'd bet that your unit did not send DS to your RTC / ITC.

Units that continue to do that ( RTC SE, at any rate ) will get a bit of a shock quite soon.
 
#17
Bravo Bravo what's the normal drop out rate at Malta barracks these days. Just curious because I hear recruits talk about their weekends and apparently they are out in the field on their first weekend, when I was there it was weekend five before corps units drop off. If this is the case they must get a bit off a shock.
 
#18
I do not want to hijack this thread but B_B's post seems worthy of comment and I was discussing something similar with my fellow SUTs yesterday.

I did a quick (and completely unofficial) straw poll of the SUTs on my cadre this weekend regarding instruction recived at their unit since our last weekend of training 2 weeks ago.

We had our WHTs this weekend and i was interested how much SAA training had been provided at the units. Some SUTs who have 2 drill nights each week (albeit 1 paid only) had 2/3 practice attempts at their unit. Others did not have any drill nights full stop and thus had not had hands on a weapon since the last weekend.

The support provided to SUTs does seem to vary significantly according to the unit both in volume and in relevance to the RTC weekends. I concur with B_B that in my experience units which provide instructors to the RTC seem to be the most attuned to SUTs needs.

This is not a moan, only an observation.

Can I also add in a completely brown-nosed fashion that the RTC experience for me so far has been pitched at exactly at the right level and been very enjoyable. :)

As for the drop out rate, my Cadre started with ~50 SUTs, we had 38 this weekend for RT5 including ~10 that had been back-squadded or missed weekends. This left about 28 or so "survivors". Cant speak for other cadres.
 
#19
delivering_capability said:
As for the drop out rate, my Cadre started with ~50 SUTs, we had 38 this weekend for RT5 including ~10 that had been back-squadded or missed weekends. This left about 28 or so "survivors". Cant speak for other cadres.
. Yes back in the days my cadre had a similar drop out. 56 and then ended up with 29 survivors with some backsquads.
 
#20
delivering_capability said:
I did a quick (and completely unofficial) straw poll of the SUTs on my cadre this weekend regarding instruction recived at their unit since our last weekend of training 2 weeks ago.

We had our WHTs this weekend and i was interested how much SAA training had been provided at the units. Some SUTs who have 2 drill nights each week (albeit 1 paid only) had 2/3 practice attempts at their unit. Others did not have any drill nights full stop and thus had not had hands on a weapon since the last weekend.

The support provided to SUTs does seem to vary significantly according to the unit both in volume and in relevance to the RTC weekends. I concur with B_B that in my experience units which provide instructors to the RTC seem to be the most attuned to SUTs needs.

This is not a moan, only an observation.
IT sounds like a moan. I think some of you RTC peeps need a reality check... has it crossed your mind that non-inf units may not provide much in the way of specialised training for SUT's on a tuesday night because they're mob handed as it is and have a lot more than an armoury to look after? I'm guessing you're at a unit where you don't have maintainance events every month. I wouldn't be at all surprised if CS/CSS units involve SUT's in the simpler aspects of servicing the mountain of kit held locally.

It might have escaped your attention, but we send SUT's off to RTC to become trained in SAA, Navigation, etc... from some posts on here it seems you expect them to turn up at RTC's fully trained or something. Weapons skills are not a priority for all units... our job isn't to close the enemy.

And actually, even if SUT's did get additional recruit training locally on a tues night I know what your next complaint would be, that the next RTC weekend had every squad member doing things a slightly different way. Centralised training is there to ensure everyone gets the same start, and training is of the same standard. Unlearning bad drills is probably harder than dealing with a little skill fade, so be careful what you wish for.
 

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