Trainspotters on the Rampage!

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Trainspotters on rampage: Vintage rail enthusiasts are facing a ban over claims of yobbish behaviour

They trundle around Britain’s railway network, harmlessly recreating, it seems, the innocence of a bygone age.
But now train enthusiasts who charter vintage rolling stock for day trips are being warned their hobby could be banned because of drunken and yobbish behaviour.
Enthusiasts have been spotted yelling at people as they pass through stations – an activity dubbed as ‘bellowing’ – and hanging as far as possible out of old-style train windows, known as ‘flailing’.
Off the rails: Nazi-style salutes at a Peak Army reuion in 2004
Last month, during one trip between Preston and London, two men had to be ejected from a heritage train being pulled by a Class 40 diesel engine manufactured in the Fifties.
One refused to stop leaning out of a window and shouting at people, and the train was delayed at Leeds while police were called to deal with another man who had provoked a fight.
The carriages were left in ‘a disgusting state’ by the drunken enthusiasts and required special cleaning.
As a result, the operator, West Coast Railway, which owns the carriages, said it would cancel future trips if tighter policing by stewards was not enforced.
The chairman of the Class 40 Preservation Society, John Stephens, said he was furious about the unruly behaviour on the Preston to London charter, which he blamed on ‘a small group of outsiders’.
‘These yobs and troublemakers came from a group of lads who got on the train with an 80-pint barrel of beer at 6.30 in the morning and drank all the way to London,’ he said.
‘We carried the can for their behaviour but it was nothing to do with us.’
Offensive gestures at a Peak Army renuion in 2003
On a ‘Christmas special’ tour yesterday for dozens of enthusiasts of the classic Class 40 locomotives between Shrewsbury and Lincoln, participants were given a list of strict rules.

Flailing, leaning out of the windows, smoking and drinking alcohol before 10am were banned.
Mark Honey, boss of Rail Blue Charters, which organised yesterday’s tour, said: 'We are taking a zero-tolerance line on this. Future charters will be heavily policed by stewards.’

In June, an incident involving a man seen perilously leaning out of a train on a trip organised by Spitfire Tours led to an official complaint by Network Rail.
The company wrote to Spitfire threatening to withdraw its licence to operate if there were further incidents.
A spokesman for Network Rail said: ‘We don’t want to tar everyone with the same brush but we will clamp down on bad behaviour very strongly.’
One rail expert said that the craze for travelling behind particular types of locomotive was an extension of trainspotting.
He said that each class of locomotive attracted a different set of fans, often depending on which part of the country the trains were most common – but those drawn to diesels from the Fifties seemed to be the rowdiest.
‘They are allowed out to play by their wives or mums and get so excited when they are being hauled by their favourite type of engine they end up behaving like football hooligans,’ he said.
The group with one of the worst reputations is the so-called Peak Army, who followed ‘Peak’ Class 45 diesels produced in the Fifties, he added.
He said they were known in the Eighties for throwing toilet seats out of the window and were described in one rail magazine as ‘the Millwall of rail enthusiast groups’.
Pictures on the internet show a group of 45 enthusiasts at a 2004 Peak Army reunion giving a Nazi-style salute.


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Why these people feel the need to run around the country chasing after loco's is beyond me, they should be at home playing stink-finger with their Mrs.
 
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[quote="Barrack Room Lawyer] were described in one rail magazine as ‘the Millwall of rail enthusiast groups’. [/quote]


have this lot ever meet the bushwackers :?: :?: :?: :?:
 
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Peak Army louts. You'd never get that from steam enthusiasts or fans of the class 55 Deltics let me tell you. On a nerdy note I can't understand why Peak fans are travelling behind a class 40 and on an uber nerdy note strictly speaking only the class 44 was a "Peak" with all its ten locomotives being named after famous mountains in England and Wales.
 
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A_Knocker_Till_The_End said:
[quote="Barrack Room Lawyer] were described in one rail magazine as ‘the Millwall of rail enthusiast groups’.

have this lot ever meet the bushwackers :?: :?: :?: :?:[/quote]

I asked a bloke at work who is into this sort of thing about the "Peak ArmY"
He reckons they should of been called the "Pink Army" due to the amount of chutneys in their ranks.
 
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Offensive gestures at a Peak Army renuion in 2003
That's not 2003!! I can only assume they dress in the style of the era, 'cause they look more like 1963 to me...


Hehehehehe..... Ten 'blokes' and, no doubt, not a single female between them.....
 
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Machristo said:

Offensive gestures at a Peak Army renuion in 2003
That's not 2003!! I can only assume they dress in the style of the era, 'cause they look more like 1963 to me...
Just some nobhead reporting by christian wolmar, 2003 was the date the photo was posted onto the web, got to be early 80's
 
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I like how the bottom right group are all subdued, except of course Blondy who's trying to hide from the camera; the bottom left are all excited but only in a sitcom, 'Gavin & Stacey'-esque publicity photo-shoot kind of way; the top left are the rowdiest spotters anyone's ever seen, after just having sat through a 24-hour Betamax marathon of The Young Ones; and the one Scouse fella on the top right is just going 'Calm down, calm down!!'.

A (dis)honourable mention, I think, to Red Jacket for so blatantly eyeing up the chebs on Speccy.

A more diverse group of spotters I've never seen!
 
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The one between Red Jacket and Kneeler, wearing the grey sweater, is that Hugh Dennis?!
 
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yep these are the sort of tw*ts who in the 1980's used to lean out of carriage windows shouting "hell fire" and generally make the rest of us feel like prats..... and go off and join the cadets.


Trotsky

PS who went around after Peaks anyway, anybody who was anybody was in the west country chasing 50's. I'll get my coat!
 
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Barrack Room Lawyer said:
http://itsyourseminars.fotopic.net/p801838.html

Surely the bloke on the extreme right is wearing his mrs clothes!
I thought unnervingly similar things when I looked at that one!
 
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Random_Task said:
Jacques_Bustard said:
Random_Task said:
Jacques_Bustard said:
Heathens, that's "Black Prince" (owned by David Shepherd the wildlife painter) they are crawling all over.
I take it you're a spotter then?
Rail enthusiast is the term I prefer!
I had no idea that the rail enthusiasts scene had such a 'dark side'.

Got any good stories of your own? Do you swap rolling stock numbers for sexual favours? Gang bangs at Crewe Station?

I'm on tenterhooks :D
I'm not aquainted with the dark side of rail enthusiasm. My time spent on the railways today consists of taking my two young sons on a Santa Special!!

Trotsky - you are right, all the Peaks were crap (poor power to weight ratio) and virtually anything on WR was better especially the 52s.
 
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I know some of these guys

 
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I remember on one occasion at Long Marston I actually had a go at driving a shunter along the tracks they had in there fkcni boring I cried for mi Foden back, do we still have any Railway squads?
 
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pinkrat said:
I remember on one occasion at Long Marston I actually had a go at driving a shunter along the tracks they had in there fkcni boring I cried for mi Foden back, do we still have any Railway squads?
I remember reading about some sapper's helping repair some preserved lines track and that they were railway centered. Might have been TA. Might have dreamed it not sure :oops:
 
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instinct said:
pinkrat said:
I remember on one occasion at Long Marston I actually had a go at driving a shunter along the tracks they had in there fkcni boring I cried for mi Foden back, do we still have any Railway squads?
I remember reading about some sapper's helping repair some preserved lines track and that they were railway centered. Might have been TA. Might have dreamed it not sure :oops:
79 Railway Sqn are still going strong, well sort off.
 
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Barrack Room Lawyer said:
instinct said:
pinkrat said:
I remember on one occasion at Long Marston I actually had a go at driving a shunter along the tracks they had in there fkcni boring I cried for mi Foden back, do we still have any Railway squads?
I remember reading about some sapper's helping repair some preserved lines track and that they were railway centered. Might have been TA. Might have dreamed it not sure :oops:
79 Railway Sqn are still going strong, well sort off.
The very lads!
 

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