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Trafalgar - Help required please

#1
You landlubbers out there may not be aware that the 21st of this month is the 207th anniversary of the Battle of Trafalgar. Guess who has been spammed to 'give a little talk' on the Battle - why me, I'm not quite sure, given that I work in a Tri-Service establishment but who am I to question an order, coming, as I do, from a Regiment with a long and proud Naval connection?

The Admiral (now you might get some understanding as to why I am ferreting around in this manner) has asked me what the Army's involvement was on the day? I have drawn an absolute blank - as far as I can tell the 'soldiery' element was provided entirely by the Royal Marines.

Does anyone have any idea if there were any Army Regiments involved as Embarked Troops in Marine Service? If so, please let me know.

Many thanks.
 
#3
You landlubbers out there may not be aware that the 21st of this month is the 207th anniversary of the Battle of Trafalgar. Guess who has been spammed to 'give a little talk' on the Battle - why me, I'm not quite sure, given that I work in a Tri-Service establishment but who am I to question an order, coming, as I do, from a Regiment with a long and proud Naval connection?

The Admiral (now you might get some understanding as to why I am ferreting around in this manner) has asked me what the Army's involvement was on the day? I have drawn an absolute blank - as far as I can tell the 'soldiery' element was provided entirely by the Royal Marines.

Does anyone have any idea if there were any Army Regiments involved as Embarked Troops in Marine Service? If so, please let me know.

Many thanks.
Wasn't Sharpe there?

blast!
 
#4
Try a different approach. Tell the Admiral that the RAF Regiment were manning the carronades on the Victory and that an RAF officer would probably be a better choice to do the talk... Rodney2q
 
#5
God dammit theres me wanting to make a Sharpe joke and almost everyone beating me to it. afaik there were no army units involved at all even upon consulting wikipedia I can't find any.
 
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Taffd

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#6
I've got outlaws who were in the Greenjackets. One has always assured me that they were taught that their forbears were some of the first sea soldiers, having served at Trafalgar.

So maybe a Greenjacket museum is the sort of place to try asking.

Edited to add:- The 95th Rifles were involved in the Battle of Copenhagen, which I guess is what the outlaw meant. No record of any Greenjacket forbears at Trafalgar that I can see.
 

DieHard

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#7
You have got the short straw on this one hav'nt you? The only thing I can remember about trafalgar day is that its the monster in laws birthday.
Good luck on your lecture
 

Auld-Yin

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#8
Just tell the Admiral that as ever, the army were far too busy on important stuff to find time for a swan around in sailing boats.

You could always cheer the nautical types by saying that there is no proof whatsoever that any ipods were lost.
 
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Tremaine

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#9
In the National Archives online, there's loads of stuff on Trafalgar plus a few of Nelson's letters. And perhaps one of our historians could help. AFAIK individuals on the Royal Navy side numbered about 18000 and came from Africa, America, West Indies, India, and most countries in Europe. And one woman's been mentioned and confirmed at Trafalgar, one Jane Townshend. Nothing yet about the Army alongside the RM.
 

ugly

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#10
You could use a french source, they believe it still to be an inconclusive skirmish where they managed to knock of our leader!











Yes they still believe that!

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PrinceAlbert

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#12
You could man the **** up and tell the homo to do the speech himself, as no-one else wants to hear about his gay sea fight
 
#14
Something is bugging me. I cannot remember if there were any regiments at Trafalgar, Something says there were but??? If there were they would have a battle honour as they were given for other sea battles.

Why not concentrate on what the army were doing at the time of the battle. I for one would be interested to know, and in reverse what the navy were up to at the time of Waterloo.
 
#16
You could try doing a re-enactment of Nelson's final moments.

Just say "kiss me Hardy" and then snog the Admiral.

Be sure to grab a handful of bum too, just for the emotional effect. If he's a Rear Admiral he'll love it.
 
#19
There's a joke here, but you probably can't use all of it
Horatio Nelson at Trafalgar

There was one man who fought at sea (for the Spanish) at Trafalgar, and on land at Waterloo (for the British), Don Miguel-Ricardo de Alava
At Trafalgar and Waterloo: Don Miguel-Ricardo de Alava

You might get a quote from this eyewitness account
Eyewitness account of Battle of Trafalgar emerges after 205 years | Mail Online

The closest I could find was the Welshies in 1781 and 1796
The Royal Regiment of Wales

Good luck with your speech.
 
#20
Line regiments who served at sea between 1793-1814 included 2nd Foot, 7th Foot, 11th Foot, 14th Foot, 18th Foot, 25th Foot, 29th Foot, 30th Foot, 49th Foot, 50th Foot, 51st Foot, 56th Foot, 63rd Foot, 69th Foot, 86th Foot, 87th Foot, 89th Foot, 90th Foot, 97th Foot, 118th Foot plus the Experimental Corps of Riflemen, Royal Newfoundland Fencible Infantry, Royal York Rangers and The Scotch Brigade. You might like to explain that even with 22000 RM raised after the peace of Amiens went tits, the Navy still had insufficient "sea soldiers".

As I'm sure you are aware, the rate of a vessel conditioned how many sea soldiers would be embarked. A 74 for example would have 78 sea soldiers. You might like to calculate how many red-coated warriors served in the British line of battle? The lack of a battle honours awarded to any Army unit implies to me that there were no line regiments embarked as sea soldiers. However many Army personnel served in other major naval engagements (Gloriou First, Nile or Copenhagen) at the time.

I would deffo go with the iPod dit...they love it!
 

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