Tracing family of Gnr HJ Latimer WWI

#1
I have been asked to help trace any surviving familiy members of Gnr HJ Latimer (We have part of his service number.) He was one of the 880,000 men who served in the Royal Regiment of Artillery during the First World War. We've tried the National Archive and I have been in contact with Firepower, the RA Musuem, but in the meantime I wondered if anybody on ARRSE may be able to help me?
Thank you
 

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#2
I can only see one H (Harry) J. Latimer in the Artillery in WW1.
Was Harry the first name of yours?
What is the part number you have?
 
#3
I'm sure you will get some help, but its not a simple exercise, IF his service record survives it should contain details of his NOK, or at least home address.
The 1911 Census should then allow you to establish the family relationships, from then on it becomes a "how long is a bit of string" exercise depending upon number of family members etc.
It is possible to trace marriage, births and deaths of individuals right through to modern times, the problem is that if he was a member of a large family then you would have to follow each relationship to see what happened, it might lead to a dead end or may show that there are lots of surviving relations.
I can provide a bit of help, but as I said it could be a long complex exercise.
As I said there are members on here who can help, to get started they will need as much detail as you know about the man.
Army Number
Date/place of birth
Full Name
I appreciate that you wont have all of this but as much as possible will help.

Best of luck
 
#6
Hi all, I'm the reporter who's trying to trace his family. The medal was posted to our newspaper in Barrow-in-Furness so I can only assume it was located somewhere in South Cumbria. As I don't have a subscription to Ancestry et all, it's proving difficult! Anyone who can help in any way can email me amy.fenton@cnmedia.co.uk
 

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Hi all, I'm the reporter who's trying to trace his family. The medal was posted to our newspaper in Barrow-in-Furness so I can only assume it was located somewhere in South Cumbria. As I don't have a subscription to Ancestry et all, it's proving difficult! Anyone who can help in any way can email me amy.fenton@cnmedia.co.uk
Amy, 80% of WW1 records were destroyed in the blitz, it looks as if Gnr Latimer's records was one of those destroyed.
looking at the 1911 census, the only Harry J Latimer I can see was born in 1891 in Leeds & living there at that time.
 
#10
Hi oldbaldy... thanks for that, I might get in touch with a paper in Leeds to see if they want to join forces so to speak! What a shame his records appear to have been destroyed, but I'm determined to reunite this medal with his family.
 
#11
One other quick question: you say he doesn't appear to have served overseas, so why was he given a medal? Sorry for my ignorance! Have posted a pic of the medal below. medalfull.jpg
 

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#12
If it is the correct guy, in 1911 he's living at 12 Gledhow Terrace Leeds, where he & his widowed mother are staying with a family named James. Harry is a tailors fitter.
 
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If it is the correct guy, in 1911 he's living at 12 Gledhow Terrace Leeds, where he & his widowed mother are staying with a family named James. Harry is a tailors fitter.
Aged 12 as a boarder?

Henry (Harry) seems to fit, odd thing is that there are no others that would match age for being in but not going overseas unless, of course he was much older, called up?
 

oldbaldy

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#14
Amy, 80% of WW1 records were destroyed in the blitz, it looks as if Gnr Latimer's records was one of those destroyed.
looking at the 1911 census, the only Harry J Latimer I can see was born in 1891 in Leeds & living there at that time.
If it is the correct guy, in 1911 he's living at 12 Gledhow Terrace Leeds, where he & his widowed mother are staying with a family named James. Harry is a tailors fitter.
Bokka see my posts, I've also seen the Henry but Harry seems more probable. My own father was called Harry, it was quite common in the past.
 

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#16
Bokka see my posts, I've also seen the Henry but Harry seems more probable. My own father was called Harry, it was quite common in the past.
Have looked back at earlier census but your bloke is only one that seems close.
 
#17
Theatre stars were not awarded in WW1 unlike WW2.

There were two stars awarded in WW1: The 1914 Star known as the Mons Star and the 1914-15 Star.

Therefore the MIC would suggest he did serve overseas but not until after the end of 1915.

You have his Victory Medal, the award criteria for which was:

"To qualify for the Victory medal one had to be mobilised in any service and have entered a theatre of war between 5 August 1914 and 11 November 1918."

Good luck on the reunite.
 
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Theatre stars were not awarded in WW1 unlike WW2.

There were two stars awarded in WW1: The 1914 Star known as the Mons Star and the 1914-15 Star.

Therefore the MIC would suggest he did serve overseas but not until after the end of 1915.

You have his Victory Medal, the award criteria for which was:

"To qualify for the Victory medal one had to be mobilised in any service and have entered a theatre of war between 5 August 1914 and 11 November 1918."

Good luck on the reunite.

Agreed, however, there is normally a qualifier (not always) indicating theatre or area in which served on the medal card.

Victory medal is different from War Medal, he got both.
 
#19
The fact he qualified for the VM makes it certain that the MIC simply omits the theatre of entry information which is not at all uncommon.

You could be awarded the BWM but not the VM, not vice versa. Which means this VM is missing its partner BWM and is probably out there somewhere unless it was, God forbid, melted down for scrap. Perhaps the family still has it? A possible reunite for both family and medal group.
 

oldbaldy

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#20
Bit more research.

A Harry J Latimer died in Ulverston in the first quarter of 1956. Looks like he moved up to your neck of the woods!
 

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