Total Rounds Fired in Iraq by 19 & 20 Brigade - from hansard

#1
Sorry for poor formatting, but makes for interesting reading.

Ammunition: Iraq
Patrick Mercer: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence how many and what type of munitions were fired in Iraq by (a) 20 Armed Brigade and (b) 19 Light Brigade in each month of their deployment. [134710]

Mr. Ingram: The number and type of munitions fired in Iraq by 20 Armoured Brigade and 19 Light Brigade in each month of their deployment is shown in the following table.

20 Armoured brigade 19 Light brigade
Commodity May June July Aug. Sept. Oct. Nov. Dec. Jan. Feb. Mar.
RD 5.56MM BALL CTN L2 SA80
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
107
1
1
0

RD 5.56MM BALL BDR L2 SA80
7,896
959
1,961
7,445
15,975
1,750
6,380
2,783
1,450
3,417
1,977

RD 5.56MM TRA CTN
10
0
3
70
895
555
6
57
917
0
33

RD 5.56MM 4B/1T BDR SA80
741
1,175
404
2,316
13,063
1,771
1,050
1,255
338
1,604
762

RD5.56MM4B/1T MINIMI
396
322
3,166
22,450
21,697
11,251
965
2,550
1,341
2,924
2,426

RD 7.62MM BALL SNPR L42A1
8
7
0
13
497
81
15
53
19
229
114

RD7.62MM4B/1TBTD
551
0
0
1,924
8,022
539
4,809
922
1,968
1,864
815

RD7.62MM1B/1TBTD
790
3,275
5,893
2,865
2,016
2,604
2
1,006
1
2,560
7,277

RD 8.59MM BALL CTN L1 (OR 0.338IN LAPUA BALL)
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
6
0

RD9MMBALLCTNL18
24
13
83
788
311
47
842
371
0
1,224
15

RKT H/F ILLUM PARA L5
74
58
5
6
246
0
0
0
0
0
0

RKT H/F PARA ILLUM L12
224
191
247
485
342
722
412
258
132
138
158

SIG KIT 16MM PYRO PISTOL WHITE
14
0
0
3
8
78
9
12
0
16
12

SIG KIT 16MM PYRO PISTOL GREEN
7
0
0
3
9
3
0
0
1
0
1

SIG KIT 16MM PYRO PISTOL RED
4
1
1
4
9
4
1
4
1
2
5

FLARE TRIPWIRE KIT L10A1
23
84
7
24
53
18
0
0
51
16
23

GREN HD SIG SMK GREEN L68
35
0
2
2
26
6
3
14
3
11
14

GREN HD SIG SMK ORANGE L69
6
3
4
2
20
5
0
8
0
23
13

GREN HD SIG SMK RED L70
17
9
7
14
65
61
2
33
22
21
40

GREN HD SIG SMK BLUE L71
0
0
5
2
19
9
7
7
20
1
93

GREN HD SIG SMK PURPLE L101
5
0
0
0
0
0
0
6
0
3
4

RD 40X 46MM HEDP
11
16
31
6
36
27
2
3
9
20
20

RD 40 X 46 MM HE FRAG GREN
60
0
0
0
0
0
0
8
3
0
0

GREN HAND HE L1 09
1
2
5
1
26
2
0
0
1
2
2

MOR BOMB 51 MM ILLUM L16
35
4
38
40
11
86
60
0
29
21
3

MOR BOMB 81 MM ILLUM L39
655
234
672
485
209
453
64
60
96
268
0

MOR BOMB 81 MM HE L41
8
35
17
5
0
40
0
0
0
1
0

RD 30MM HE
0
16
69
1
10
22
0
6
24
66
22


21 May 2007 : Column 1045W

21 May 2007 : Column 1046W
105MM HE FZD L1 16A1 W/CART NORM
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
74
0

RD A-RIOT 1 .5IN BATON L5
0
0
153
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0

RD A-RIOT 37MM BATON L21
206
36
10
34
144
64
4
112
0
17
24

GRENHDDISTXL108
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
5
2
0
0

GREN DSCHGR ANTI RIOT CS L96
0
0
6
6
4
0
0
0
o
0
0
 

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LE
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#2
Coooo, those Minimi's sure are popular aren't they? The proof is in the pudding there.

If the LSW was half as good . . .
 

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#4
EX_STAB said:
L42A1? Heh?

Surprising number of rounds downrange though.
Ever more popular for that 'surprise' moment. Question is, is anyone actually still using them?

They've got the L96 down in .338 (and not many rnds fired), so I'm assuming it's the L96 7.62. Never mind, more shoit admin from the bean counters.
 
#5
Biped said:
EX_STAB said:
L42A1? Heh?

Surprising number of rounds downrange though.
Ever more popular for that 'surprise' moment. Question is, is anyone actually still using them?

They've got the L96 down in .338 (and not many rnds fired), so I'm assuming it's the L96 7.62. Never mind, more shoit admin from the bean counters.
Damn I should have spotted that -L118 in .338 :hangs head in shame:
 
#6
Its sad that when things are getting like that someone is still counting rounds.

Relax RoE and let rounds fly down range I say. RoE is robust but not as robust as it should be. We should not be accounting for rifle ammunition.

Just use it and get more.

Bloody bean counters
 
#7
RoE = if you perceive you are in danger you may open fire.

better than any white, yellow, green, blue, orange card ive ever had in my pocket, smock top right!
 
#9
EX_STAB said:
L42A1? Heh?

Surprising number of rounds downrange though.
L42A1 is actually the designation for the current batch of RO 7.62mm 155gn (as opposed to the old 144gn NATO standard) target/sniper ammo; just coincidence that it happens to also be the number of the old sniper rifle.....

 
#10
Is there any significance to the colour of smoke used?
 
#11
Strewth!

Very interesting. I`m loving that Minimi expediture. Seen the Baton rounds? Them Iraqis love that rioting dont they?
 
#12
4(T) said:
EX_STAB said:
L42A1? Heh?

Surprising number of rounds downrange though.
L42A1 is actually the designation for the current batch of RO 7.62mm 155gn (as opposed to the old 144gn NATO standard) target/sniper ammo; just coincidence that it happens to also be the number of the old sniper rifle.....

Serendipity strikes! Amazing!

Thanks for that. ;)
 
#13
RD9MMBALLCTNL18
24
13
83
788
311
47
842
371
0 !!
1,224
15

Wow, the RMPs had no ND's in January?



(apologies to offended RMPs, your weapon handling skills are beyond reproach obviously)
 
#14
jockass said:
RD9MMBALLCTNL18
24
13
83
788
311
47
842
371
0 !!
1,224
15

Wow, the RMPs had no ND's in January?



(apologies to offended RMPs, your weapon handling skills are beyond reproach obviously)
Bit jumpy ya think?
 
#16
Bad_Crow said:
Its sad that when things are getting like that someone is still counting rounds.

Relax RoE and let rounds fly down range I say. RoE is robust but not as robust as it should be. We should not be accounting for rifle ammunition.

Just use it and get more.

Bloody bean counters
It was in response to a Parliamentary question so somebody had to count them.

Clearly they have been letting the rounds down range - including 30mm and 105mm! That seems to prove that the RoE are working.

We should be accounting for ammunition so someone can submit a sensible bid for funds to buy new ammunition. If we don't know how many we've fired, how do we know how much we need to order?

In the press yesterday was news of BAE's plans to close down more of Royal Ordanance. If we have to order ammunition from a non-National supplier, we will have to do more of this I imagine in order to account for longer lead times.
 
#17
4(T) said:
EX_STAB said:
L42A1? Heh?

Surprising number of rounds downrange though.
L42A1 is actually the designation for the current batch of RO 7.62mm 155gn (as opposed to the old 144gn NATO standard) target/sniper ammo; just coincidence that it happens to also be the number of the old sniper rifle.....

Interesting differnce in the cartons: The dated ones don't mention the bullet weight but do have the NATO standard symbol. looks like the one on the left was a special run for NRA perhaps...

Well OK, it's probably only of interest to the likes of 4(T), Ugly and myself. :oops:
 
#18
I am always amazed at the ability to know down to the round the number of rounds discharged, and yet have no idea about the number and nature of casulties in theatre.
 
#20
So can anybody be bothered to get a calculator out for the totals? Some of these rounds must of hit somebody bad. What was the ratio they reckoned in vietnam? I seem to remember the US did a study in 2005 i read that put the ratio of expended rounds that were, lets say useful, was shockingly high.
 

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