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TamH70

MIA
I‘m afraid I’ve got some bad news for you.
Just like I said earlier, day in day out family members or friends are allowed to be with the victim or perpetrator of a crime while they are getting medical attention at a crime scene.

But, at least we are clear now. :)
When some hypothetical innocent kid gets stabbed and his is lying dying on the floor with paramedics all round him, you would be the one holding back his crying mother as she wants to be with him and at least hold his hand as he dies to give him some comfort.

Luckily imho, the police or paramedics do allow other people to be with the victim just like I mentioned earlier, or have seen with my own eyes. :)

Appealing to my emotions won't work, old bean. I didn't come out of the factory equipped for that sort of thing. I've got Asperger's. IF that hypothetical kid was mine, I'd want the polis to have the best chance of putting the scum behind bars or in the ground, and the paramedics doing their job properly without me possibly ******* it all up by my weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth. And if day in day out polis and paramedics are allowing that to happen, then they should be sacked.
 

Slime

LE
Disagree, If my life was in danger I want calm professional around me, not tearful friends or family.

That’s your choice. :)
But, and slightly tongue in cheek, was the disagree about it being what you would want, or disagreeing that the emergency services should choose lol.
 
I‘m afraid I’ve got some bad news for you.
Just like I said earlier, day in day out family members or friends are allowed to be with the victim or perpetrator of a crime while they are getting medical attention at a crime scene.
And yet a former policeman hasn't seen it, but you, somehow, have.
 

Arte_et_Marte

ADC
Moderator
I‘m afraid I’ve got some bad news for you.
Just like I said earlier, day in day out family members or friends are allowed to be with the victim or perpetrator of a crime while they are getting medical attention at a crime scene.

But, at least we are clear now. :)
When some hypothetical innocent kid gets stabbed and his is lying dying on the floor with paramedics all round him, you would be the one holding back his crying mother as she wants to be with him and at least hold his hand as he dies to give him some comfort.

Luckily imho, the police or paramedics do allow other people to be with the victim just like I mentioned earlier, or have seen with my own eyes. :)
You have shares in Netflix and I claim my $5.
 

Slime

LE
Appealing to my emotions won't work, old bean. I didn't come out of the factory equipped for that sort of thing. I've got Asperger's. IF that hypothetical kid was mine, I'd want the polis to have the best chance of putting the scum behind bars or in the ground, and the paramedics doing their job properly without me possibly ******* it all up by my weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth. And if day in day out polis and paramedics are allowing that to happen, then they should be sacked.

I’m not trying to appeal to your emotions, but of course, it could be something to consider none the less. :)
At least you have now considered why what hppothecital kids mum might suddenly kid the crap out of you, for a situation you hadn't grasped lol due to Asperger’s. ;)
 
That’s your choice. :)
But, and slightly tongue in cheek, was the disagree about it being what you would want, or disagreeing that the emergency services should choose lol.
My disagree was with first responders having to deal with an upset relative,
If that is what happens then I am glad I am not a first responder.
 

TamH70

MIA
I’m not trying to appeal to your emotions, but of course, it could be something to consider none the less. :)
At least you have now considered why what hppothecital kids mum might suddenly kid the crap out of you, for a situation you hadn't grasped lol due to Asperger’s. ;)

Kid's mom did that, kid's mom would be in the back of the van. Cuffed, certainly. Hooded and leg restraints? Probably. But in the van and cuffed.
 
"That would be an ecumenical matter."

Not being a theologian I guess normal jogging, praying for the repose of the soul afterwards. It's best case scenario that I put forward. I have say that I was quite surprised myself when I asked for one. There was a practising Catholic nurse there who stayed with me.
Give the child until seven and all that.

How very Manchurian Candidate. What's the trigger phrase for biting prods in the face?
 

Slime

LE
You have shares in Netflix and I claim my $5.

It’s far worse than that ;)
I used to listen to BBC radio, or watch BBC news……There is nothing Emma Barnett or Victoria Derbyshire love more than a mum/dad/sibling holding a dying child’s hand story.

But, then working with troubled kids, saw assaults every day, either in the home or outside.

The above also added the rather bizarre thing whereby the ‘loving parent’ was also in the house and the kid wanted their parent to be with them………..….
 

Slime

LE
Kid's mom did that, kid's mom would be in the back of the van. Cuffed, certainly. Hooded and leg restraints? Probably. But in the van and cuffed.

I won’t argue with you about that, but would just say it might not happen quite how you might like.
Your theory might indicate you think your actions were correct :)
 

Ad_Astra

Old-Salt
"That would be an ecumenical matter."

Not being a theologian I guess normal jogging, praying for the repose of the soul afterwards. It's best case scenario that I put forward. I have say that I was quite surprised myself when I asked for one. There was a practising Catholic nurse there who stayed with me.
Give the child until seven and all that.
Yes Jack, it would!
 

Slime

LE
Yes Jack, it would!

Jack has an awful lot to answer for.

I find it very hard to drink plain water without saying ‘fecking water’.
 

Arte_et_Marte

ADC
Moderator
Appealing to my emotions won't work, old bean. I didn't come out of the factory equipped for that sort of thing. I've got Asperger's. IF that hypothetical kid was mine, I'd want the polis to have the best chance of putting the scum behind bars or in the ground, and the paramedics doing their job properly without me possibly ******* it all up by my weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth. And if day in day out polis and paramedics are allowing that to happen, then they should be sacked.
Correct. The scene of a mutiple stabbing can be horrific. Robust, trained Professionals who deal with these situations are often offered counselling afterwards and these are the bods that should be innured to these scenes. Having the partner/Father/Mother to 'hold a hand' just doesn't happen.
It’s far worse than that ;)
I used to listen to BBC radio, or watch BBC news……There is nothing Emma Barnett or Victoria Derbyshire love more than a mum/dad/sibling holding a dying child’s hand story.

But, then working with troubled kids, saw assaults every day, either in the home or outside.

The above also added the rather bizarre thing whereby the ‘loving parent’ was also in the house and the kid wanted their parent to be with them………..….
Having a parent attend an assualted child, is nothing what-so-ever like a parent attending the crime scene of a dying child with multiple stab wounds, where there is a Police cordon and paramedics are busy working. It doesn't happen.
 

theoriginalphantom

MIA
Book Reviewer
One of the worst things you can have at an incident is a family member or friend, they can (and frequently do) get in the way of treatment, having watched any number of films/episodes of casualty they don't understand why are you are not doing (insert fictional treatment/miracle bandage here)
There is wailing, gnashing of teeth, "I was a first aider in scouts in 1973 and I'm sure a neck tourniquet should be used*
It's even more fun when alcohol/recreational drugs are in play, throw in a bit of mental health and guilt (thanks Mrs ****** for drunkenly smashing your husband in the face with a massive floorstanding glass ashtray and then drive to the med centre at ******** to apologise and crashing on the way.




*yes but not on the current casualty
 

Endoscope

LE
Book Reviewer
I‘m afraid I’ve got some bad news for you.
Just like I said earlier, day in day out family members or friends are allowed to be with the victim or perpetrator of a crime while they are getting medical attention at a crime scene.

But, at least we are clear now. :)
When some hypothetical innocent kid gets stabbed and his is lying dying on the floor with paramedics all round him, you would be the one holding back his crying mother as she wants to be with him and at least hold his hand as he dies to give him some comfort.

Luckily imho, the police or paramedics do allow other people to be with the victim just like I mentioned earlier, or have seen with my own eyes. :)
I ask police or fire if they can clear the scene for me, this means removing family members... last thing I need or they need to see. Trying to keep someone going is often not pretty
 

Slime

LE
Correct. The scene of a mutiple stabbing can be horrific. Robust, trained Professionals who deal with these situations are often offered counselling afterwards and these are the bods that should be innured to these scenes. Having the partner/Father/Mother to 'hold a hand' just doesn't happen.

Having a parent attend an assualted child, is nothing what-so-ever like a parent attending the crime scene of a dying child with multiple stab wounds, where there is a Police cordon and paramedics are busy working. It doesn't happen.
Your last paragraph gave me a chuckle.
While none of the kids I supported died of the injuries from their parents, the parents weren’t just attending ;)
 
One of the worst things you can have at an incident is a family member or friend, they can (and frequently do) get in the way of treatment,
There is a video out there showing a woman in the back of an ambulance (USA) who gets defibrillated instead of her friend as she 'gets in the way' and her pulse stops.

Not sure if it is real footage or the start of a porn scene.

It is still out there on the web but I think it wise not for me to post the link here!
 

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