Top copper speaks out

#3
This is good and should make Seagul smile

http://www.policesupers.com/news/full.asp?id=77&news=343

Restoring ‘dented and bruised’ public confidence in the police will be the main theme of the President’s address to the Association’s annual Conference next week.


Chief Superintendent Ian Johnston will tell more than 250 delegates that there are ‘too many occasions when we disappoint’ and encourage senior officers to do more to reassure the public that the police are on their side when it comes to tackling crime and criminals.


Ian will acknowledge ‘public confidence is fragile and we need to restore it and enhance it by tackling the issues that are a priority to the communities we serve’.
 
#4
vert good except he obviously has no idea of the logistics behinf the frontline troops. Last time I checked it was something like 4 support staff for every bayonet at the front!!
 
#6
Gadget's blog is always worth a read. His post on how Ruralshire's racial crime unit turned a black builder who had his tools nicked into a 'victim of inter tribal racism' is hilarious. Not least because the builder was from Birmingham and had no clue about which African tribe he was descended from.

A book with a similar theme but from a different perspective is David Fraser's 'A Land Fit For Criminals'. Fraser is retired after a life spent working as a probation officer. He describes a criminal justice system in meltdown after a decade of the type of policies that failed so spectacularly in America in the 1970s.
 
#7
Thanks for that post. The article is completely true. I know a few coppers and they all complain of the same thing - they know what to do to reduce crime but they have their hands tied behind their backs by beaurocracy!
 
#8
Been a cop for almost 8 years after 8 years in the Army... Apparently the paperwork is getting less!!!! Not from what i am seeing... In the time i have been in the job it is getting worse.. I work in North Manchester and on Divisional orders last week, 3 cops resigned... That tells a story.... Also there are so many people checking up on what you have done, to do 30 years without getting in the s**t is a miracle... Sorry its now 35 years for the new probationers, and they are welcome to it. :roll:
 
#9
Refreshingly honest, worth forwarding to politicians. Not that anything will happen, which is of course, a given.
 
#10
Ancient_Mariner said:
Gadget's blog is always worth a read. His post on how Ruralshire's racial crime unit turned a black builder who had his tools nicked into a 'victim of inter tribal racism' is hilarious. Not least because the builder was from Birmingham and had no clue about which African tribe he was descended from.

A book with a similar theme but from a different perspective is David Fraser's 'A Land Fit For Criminals'. Fraser is retired after a life spent working as a probation officer. He describes a criminal justice system in meltdown after a decade of the type of policies that failed so spectacularly in America in the 1970s.
Been reading it on and off, mostly off though as a few pages of it makes me angry. :x
 
#11
Another Copperfield copper. Expecting public symathy to fight his battles for him whilst he risks nothing. Hides behind anonymity, keeps his overpaid job and looks forward to his excessive pension.

If he wants respect. Identify himself. Refuse INDIVIDUALLY to carry out any paperwork that is not consistent with the terms of the constable oath. And if the Chief constable sacks him. Go to law.

It is called honour and bottle. Totally lacking in the "Modern police". No sympathy and no respect from me.

Civil servants in uniform acting for the state to control the citizen. Napoleon would approve. But Nelson and Wellington would wonder why the f-ck they bothered.

Stand by for coppers whinging about dealing with scroats etc etc. If you don't like it and cannot satisfy your addiction to admiration then try getting a proper job.
 
#13
Yawn

And still breathing because it still has life in it.

Plus I an't asking anything I have not done myself.

I will give Copperfield that he exchanged emails with me and put his publishers in touch. But I think he did the right thing in resigning eh ?
 
#14
Only in order to join Edmunton Police mate.


So you joined the job, then left because you didn't agree with what the Police wanted you to do?
 
#15
knockknee. Are you willing to put your name and address up on this blog. All you have to fear is a few naughty emails or letters from people. Gadget has the chance of losing his job, house and abandoning his staff who he does appear to fight for. So if you are unwilling to identify yourself with little or nothing to lose why should he identify himself. You need to get over your knee jerk anti police reaction and put some thought into your comments.
 
#16
knockknee said:
Yawn

And still breathing because it still has life in it.

Plus I an't asking anything I have not done myself.

I will give Copperfield that he exchanged emails with me and put his publishers in touch. But I think he did the right thing in resigning eh ?
Copperfield quit in order to emigrate to Canada and be a police officer there.

In Copperfield's case, Tony McNulty (who is the Minister with responsibility for the police), in Parliament called Copperfield's book a load of fiction, and then had to retract that statement when he realised that it was a real live PC writing the book.

There's also the fact that it needs someone anonymous to write in order to get other people to come forward. Copperfield's blog regularly included stuff from other forces where the officers concerned had a tale to tell but no outlet.

If you read Gadget's blog, you'll know that someone in his own force is probably on to him - he's doing nothing illegal in his commentary, but for that he could face disciplinary action, and possibly lose his job.

Is the blog making a difference? Not sure, but it is bringing to a wider audience the problems faced by the police. Pretty much like this site does for the Army and why it is quoted on a regular basis by the newspapers.
 
#17
I'm his publisher, Knockknee. You say that Copperfield put us on to you... when was that?

I would like to say on behalf of Gadget that he isn't looking for any 'public sympathy', he's trying to draw attention to the scandalous waste of time, money and resources that the modern police force labours under, and the politically correct, target-driven, box-ticking culture which sits on top of them.

He doesn't want 'respect', either. In fact, to be honest, I've scarcely met a man less concerned about getting respect or sympathy from anyone.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'Refuse INDIVIDUALLY to carry out any paperwork that is not consistent with the terms of the constable oath'?

He could just say nothing, continue to draw the salary and wait for retirement, but he took the decision to risk his job, which pays the mortgage on the house his wife and kids live in, to alert taxpayers to the reasons why the police no longer really provide the service they were set up to provide.

To say that honour and bottle are 'totally lacking in the modern police', or to describe them all as 'civil servants in uniform acting for the state to control the citizen' is slightly sweeping.

Gadget has plenty of bottle, I can assure you (he did several tours of Northern Ireland in the Army, for starters), and he is absolutely against state control of the citizenry - hence his book, which says pretty clearly that this is a very bad thing.

Of course, there are useless, lazy, spineless coppers out there - most of them in the upper ranks (half of them sueing various forces for various things at the moment), some of them in cushy jobs in offices. Gadget's completely against them; he wants them out on the streets, catching criminals, or out of the police.

Finally, as far as I know he doesn't have any 'addiction to admiration'; if he did, he'd hardly be anonymous. And policing, done properly, is a proper job.

PS Mods, hope I'm OK posting up this slight plug for the book (we are site sponsors but if it's too commercial please just delete).
 

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