'Too posh to wash', think tank says family of hospital patients should nurse them.

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  1. My wife has done this as a matter of course for me for over 20 years.
    Its fairly standard practise overseas.

    One of the things that boils my piss us watching a half dozen mongs visiting one of their assorted clan in hospital and bellowing at a nurse run off her feet that 'someone should get my cuz some water!', 'someone should brush my aunts hair' etc.
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  2. seaweed

    seaweed LE Book Reviewer

    I thought this was only SOPs in places like Calcutta ..
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  3. Seen it, and have done it... as in actually got the water or similar (not the bellowing), and I once was allowed to hang around after visiting hours because an old boy was dying (actually in the ward with family around) and my Granddad was doddering about (he was losing his mind) distressed and generally getting in the way.

    True dit, in hospital he refered to some of the nurses as 'natives' and that they were treating him very well and also gave a blow by blow account of sh1t being sprayed every where from some sort of invention in his head which merged the toilets with a high pressure pneumatic system. Less amusing was watching him follow the hand rails looking for the valuve to turn the air on for the miners.

    That said, I don't agree with premise that we should be under some sort of obligation to hang around incase they need taking to the toilet.

    If neccesary we should explore the axeing of managerial roles, and opening of spots for 'Nurse Auxileries' non medical caring staff who could handle the humdrum and cleaning.
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  4. While they're at it should I turn up with a spanner and a trolley jack when my cars in for an MOT?
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  5. Fixed!
  6. I agree with your sentiment, but jeez, do you own a dictionary?

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  7. I've visited friends and relatives in hospital and helped them while I'm there, however are they seriously expecting that I take time off work three times a day to feed a relative on a ward? what will those with no local relatives do? What about those with no known relatives at all?

    what we need is some kind of specialist in caring for the sick and injured. They could work on wards on our behalf and be properly trained for the job. Maybe we could pay for them out of our taxes. Is that too crazy an idea to work?

    I'm sure we could get some foreigners in to do it on the cheap.
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  8. W could call the nurses! It all went south with the introduction of nursing degrees: wipe his arse. I have a degree, dontcha know!

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  9. Agreed - this is ridiculous as it not only puts pressure on the family but it reduces valuable nurse - patient contact time to check things the family might not notice, such as pressure sores. I can understand the need to save money but not when it's in any way to the detriment of patient care.
  10. I've heard that alot, but how true is it?
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  11. So what are the staff doing? When I worked in hospitals this was part of the job and time to get to know the patient (no not in the "Biblical" sense) and check for pressure sores ect. As a student nurse I was told off for not washing a patient as he had not slept well and was asleep when I went to wash him, patient said thanks.
  12. Grumblegrunt

    Grumblegrunt LE Book Reviewer

    another reason why it was a mistake to strip the wards of students and take nursing to degree level alienating the bread and butter students the nhs needed and thrived on.

    students and sens used to look after the patients needs while the srns looked after the patients care.

    not everyone can afford nor is suited to a degree course and the end result think they are care managers not care workers
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  13. OldSnowy

    OldSnowy LE Moderator Book Reviewer

    Completely correct. My wife, after many years of Nursing, gave up a few years ago as she got fed up with the new Graduate Nurses. They are, for the most part, not only too busy (see below) but too posh to wash and clean up shit. That's not what they went to Uni for.

    As they are so expensive, they are increasingly supplemented with cheap and ill-trained Auxiliaries - so fewer Nurses, and those always seem busy keeping paperwork up-to-date.

    The bottom line is a combination of expensive Nurses, and simply too many people in the UK. Oh, and indeed, from experience, I know that if you want a vulnerable patient looked after, it is always best to do it yourself. This is aproblem, as most infectins in hospitals are brought in by visitors - so lots more of them won't help on that front.