Todays Daily Mail - Swiss Tony

#4
Broon , Swiss tony
Would you really trust anything either of these two said?

No way SecDef can share his time with Scottish Secretary duties,
Defence IS and always will be a full time job, not just photo-opportunity for a morally bankrupt spin-laden bunch of time serving sycophantic arrse licking champagne sociallists.
Gordon, if you or your staff read this, appoint Gen.Jackson(or Adm Boyce) as next SECDEF, at least they have an understanding of service within a military context.
 
#6
Gordon Brown hast warned his critics in the military that the armed forces must compete with schools and hospitals for funding.
My bolding.

Including schools that are in other countries. Way to go PM, show us just how much you care about Britain and its defence!

Chancellor Gordon Brown has said the UK will give $15bn (£8.5bn) in overseas aid for education in Africa and Asia.
The 10-year funding plan is part of the pledge by the world's richest nations to help every African child have access to a primary school by 2015.
From:-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4893980.stm
 
#7
Sorry this makes my blood boil
Defence expenditure has not risen under this Government
In real terms (as % of GDP) EXPENDITURE HAS FALLEN FROM OVER 4.3% to just under 2% GDP since Liarbour came to power.
I know what some will say, The Major Government started the cuts.
Fair point,however, we weren't fighting 2 major ground actions then and the BerlinWall fell/Warsaw pact was slowly imploding.
So to Tory financial eyes savings could be made.


So when Liarbour takes us (illegally) into conflict in Iraq and then commit forces to Afghanistan, surely expenditure should of increased proportionally with our commitments?

The fact that Mr Brown (Chancellor at the time) forced the sale of Qinetiq through to fill a budgetary shortfall has direct ramifications to defence expenditure.
Prudence in budgeting?
I think not.
 
#8
Darthspud said:
Broon , Swiss tony
Would you really trust anything either of these two said?

No way SecDef can share his time with Scottish Secretary duties,
Defence IS and always will be a full time job, not just photo-opportunity for a morally bankrupt spin-laden bunch of time serving sycophantic arrse licking champagne sociallists.
Gordon, if you or your staff read this, appoint Gen.Jackson(or Adm Boyce) as next SECDEF, at least they have an understanding of service within a military context.
Why do we have a Scottish secretary? What exactly is the job? Same goes for Wales and N.I. Who is the English secretary?
 
#9
Scottish secretary, supposed to be there for greater cultural and political ties.
As the SNP , Plaid Cymru , and Sinn Fein effectively want their own countries do we need any (Foreign) national Secretaries?

Devolution, ain't it great?
If they are all so passionate about national identity, why don't they all go back to their respective principalities and get on with it?
Because without a voice in Westminster, they would be seen for what they are.
Regional areas no bigger on the world stage than Luxembourg!
 
#11
Darthspud said:
Broon , Swiss tony
Would you really trust anything either of these two said?

No way SecDef can share his time with Scottish Secretary duties,
Defence IS and always will be a full time job, not just photo-opportunity for a morally bankrupt spin-laden bunch of time serving sycophantic arrse licking champagne sociallists.
Gordon, if you or your staff read this, appoint Gen.Jackson(or Adm Boyce) as next SECDEF, at least they have an understanding of service within a military context.
FFS, get off that fence, you must be getting splinters by now...
 
#12
Paramount Comrade Broon says the army must compete with education and the NHS for funds?.

First of all how about levelling the playing field?

NHS spend per annum 90 billion pounds plus and increasing at at least 10% P.A.

Education spend per annum is far higher than defence(not sure of exact figures) and rising again at several percentage points above inflation.

Defence,initially budgeted at 32 billion pounds for the current finincial year,but was increased with much fanfare by the supreme leader by a further 2 billion.In real terms,defence spending is probally falling,or if not,is likely to fall in the next few years.

2 billion pounds is probably petty cash to both the NHS and department of Education.

Too many non-jobs in the NHS and education held by trade union members whose unions donate funds to liarbore.

Bottom line-Gordon Brown is a Stalinist control-freak communist who hates defence and any spending in non socialist areas of the economy(with the exception of short-term vote-buying in the case of Northern Rock-45 billion blown so far,here).

Don't expect defence spending to rise should the Tories get in at the next election,Cameroun is probaly all wind and piss.
 
#13
jack-daniels said:
See a couple of our esteemed posters have made the press again!
We could make a game out of this - you get four points for getting quoted by screen name, three if just referred to as from Arrse and two for an unnamed quote. Of course everyone would end up making even more outrageous statements just to get more points but what the hell. :)
 
#14
Le_addeur_noir said:
Paramount Comrade Broon says the army must compete with education and the NHS for funds?.


Hmm, remind me just how many teachers and NHS staff have died in underprotected 4wd vehicles, or having been ordered to hand over their body armour to someone else because there wasnt enough, in the last four years?
 
#15
labrat said:
Le_addeur_noir said:
Paramount Comrade Broon says the army must compete with education and the NHS for funds?.


Hmm, remind me just how many teachers and NHS staff have died in underprotected 4wd vehicles, or having been ordered to hand over their body armour to someone else because there wasnt enough, in the last four years?
Oi, stop! Don't try and get real life mixed up in political chatter.
 
#17
Is anyone else getting bored with Comrade Commisar Browne and Comrade Premier Broon blaming the previous Tory government for all the defence cutbacks? havn't they been in power for 10yrs now? surely thats enough time to turnaround these cutbacks. To***rs!

Seems that all Comrade Premier Broon does now when something like this is brought up is put his fingers in his ears and says that this was all done by the Major government before BLiar and co, and then he goes on to say that he has to focus on the job at hand and steer the course through these troubled times! What an utter pr*ck!

Even bottled on an election because he was gonna lose the dour, depressing, sour faced knob! Imagine that, competition, its a novel thing!
 
#19
Le_addeur_noir said:
Paramount Comrade Broon says the army must compete with education and the NHS for funds?.
.
An interesting comment. What form does he expect this competition to take ?

While they hurl chalk and colostomy bags at us, we lay down a fire mission followed by a full brigade/division assault ?

Surely as a tool of government and foreign policy the Armed Forces are first given the government's directives then the money to carry them out ?

Or were they thinking of defining the requirement and handing the job out to the cheapest bidder?

That cheapest bidder will still be the Armed Forces; a crack team of social workers would be terrifying but could not deploy until the full risk-analysis had been completed, consultants called in, and agency staff arranged for paternity leave cover. Never mind the counseling.
 

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