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P.O.N.T.I

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Unless that is a temporary fix, why not lay some concrete.
Hospital admin saving money for some new chairs in the boardroom?
 
Unless that is a temporary fix, why not lay some concrete.
Hospital admin saving money for some new chairs in the boardroom?
Addenbrookes is undergoing massive building works, they have just finished the new Papworth Hospital and are building some medical research buildings, hence the tin pad.
 

Dredd

LE
So the air ambulance can land on any open ground as close to an incident as possible to minimise time of casualty transfer, but cannot do that at the other end now without a special mat? Who knew?

Another excellent example of quality journalism in our wonderful country.
 
So the air ambulance can land on any open ground as close to an incident as possible to minimise time of casualty transfer, but cannot do that at the other end now without a special mat? Who knew?

Another excellent example of quality journalism in our wonderful country.
The issue at the hospital end seems to be the need for guaranteed all-weather wheeled vehicle access to the air ambulance when off-loading the patient for admission.
 

ches

LE
The issue at the hospital end seems to be the need for guaranteed all-weather wheeled vehicle access to the air ambulance when off-loading the patient for admission.
Wot he said. I've been on the design side of a lot of major hospitals, heli pads must have all weather access.
 
Most air ambulances are about a quarter/third the weight/power of a CV22, so the temporary pad was good enough for normal use. A proper pre-sortie recce would have identified the need to land on the grass (which they did) further from the temporary pad (which they did not).
IMHO as an ATCO, if the crewmen had been looking out as the pilot pulled power prior to take off, they would have noticed the pad start to lift and the take off could have been aborted.
 

Helm

MIA
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I like the way it just casually sails off into the wild blue yonder, having left a trail of havoc behind it.
 

theoriginalphantom

MIA
Book Reviewer
I like the way it just casually sails off into the wild blue yonder, having left a trail of havoc behind it.


I didn't suppose landing again to apologise would be the best idea...

Still, the downdraft isn't as bad as a sea stallion. Had one land on the first helipad at LKG while we were parked at the second. The ambi was leaning over at quite an alarming angle compared to the effect we'd get from a Chinook or osprey.
 
Would love to know who laid this pad, and I bet there are some frosty interviews without beverages this morning.

From PPRuNe
The current helipad is considered a temporary installation (and the matting is/was part of that). There are those who want it on top of the building, but that is very difficult (i.e. expensive) if the building wasn't built to the right specification to have one on top (and that is more about coping with worst case scenarios than just the structural strength to support the pad). The helipad is also likely to get moved (again) as a result of the continued development of the site...

The pad is indeed a 'cheap' solution - the NHS isn't made of money! I believe there are still occasions when the air ambulance actually lands at Marshalls and they ferry the patient across to Addenbrooke's by road.
 
it's the muricans, what do you expect?

Ah, yes. The same twats who almost destroyed the 30m range at JHQ.

I used to get along there with the RMP CP lads once, or twice, a week. Go along to the Rheindahlen Garrison Training Wing, collect the key, open the range, make sure a first aid kit is on hand. I'm range NCO one day, get along to the training wing and the Sgt there tells me, "fcuk off, you fcukers destroyed my range last week you are never getting the key again, consider yourselves lucky an official complaint has not gone in"........and he was serious.

I told him I was there the previous week and we left it as we found it, all brass collected, targets away, clean and tidy.

"What about the railway sleepers that hold back the sand, they were destroyed"?

"I don't see how, we were only shooting pistols".

We dug out the range bookings book (which to be fair no one ever bothered with ordinarily) and found that the USAF contingent at JHQ had booked the range for their APWT the day after we last used it. I called a contact in the USAF and he told me that the USAF troops had done all their APWT's; pistol, AR, and M60. The American weapons experts had chewed up a 30m range with a couple of M60's.

That raised several questions, not least of which were; how the fcuk can you do a belt fed APWT on a 30m range? And, how can you hit the sleepers which are almost 2 feet below the part of the fig.11 target you are supposed to be hitting...........at 30m?

Needless to say international cross service complaints were made, and they were banned for life.
 

DaManBugs

LE
Book Reviewer
Ah, yes. The same twats who almost destroyed the 30m range at JHQ.

I used to get along there with the RMP CP lads once, or twice, a week. Go along to the Rheindahlen Garrison Training Wing, collect the key, open the range, make sure a first aid kit is on hand. I'm range NCO one day, get along to the training wing and the Sgt there tells me, "fcuk off, you fcukers destroyed my range last week you are never getting the key again, consider yourselves lucky an official complaint has not gone in"........and he was serious.

I told him I was there the previous week and we left it as we found it, all brass collected, targets away, clean and tidy.

"What about the railway sleepers that hold back the sand, they were destroyed"?

"I don't see how, we were only shooting pistols".

We dug out the range bookings book (which to be fair no one ever bothered with ordinarily) and found that the USAF contingent at JHQ had booked the range for their APWT the day after we last used it. I called a contact in the USAF and he told me that the USAF troops had done all their APWT's; pistol, AR, and M60. The American weapons experts had chewed up a 30m range with a couple of M60's.

That raised several questions, not least of which were; how the fcuk can you do a belt fed APWT on a 30m range? And, how can you hit the sleepers which are almost 2 feet below the part of the fig.11 target you are supposed to be hitting...........at 30m?

Needless to say international cross service complaints were made, and they were banned for life.
I think the term "Marksman" for the Septics means that they've read a few pages of stuff from old Karl. That's actually mandatory before they get posted to Europe. It's so that they're not too traumatised when they're confronted with "Socialism".

MsG
 
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