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Time to decriminalise drug use say peers.

#5
If the law cannot be enforced, or if there is no determination from the top to control the problem, then why bother making it illegal? It just makes the police force look weak.
 
#6
Jail the users. Takes out the market. The top-down approach of targeting importers and suppliers doesn't work when your border force is UKBA and the drugs trade is led by a conglomeration of ruthless Colombian Multi-Billionaires.
 
#7
Anyone using is locked in a cell on 'cold turkey'. We wont bother with medical facilites, just lock 'em in a 6 by 6 rubber cell and let them go fcuking spastic for a day or two.

Anyone with more than two hits worth of the muck on them get's done for being a dealer. All possesions seized by the state, up for death penalty. The more they squeal about the next levels of their cnuts hierachy the lesser the sentance they receive.

Buy crops from the farmers in Afghanistan and what not. Use it for medicial purposes (ie perscribed heroin to 'volunteer turkeys' trying to get off the stuff willingly (better than methadone)), morphine etc, the rest can get torched.

Hitting the cartels from both sides. No take up, smashing the infrastructure or at lesat making harder to operate, AND driving prices up for the raw product.

Oh, and all users spend time in the stocks, for people to jeer at. Followed by 50 lashes. Especially 'celebrities'. Homeless users, get homed and weened of the sh1t.
 
#8
"Jail the users. Takes out the market."

I would imagine you have just locked up half of Parliament and the Judiciary.

No disrespect but the problem is too widespread and so make it legal and Tax it.
California has just rejected a Law legalising Marijuana, part of the against Campaign was promoted by the Illegal Pot growers.
They did not want cheap competition from Big Business.

john
 
#10
We could sell the stuff, but with the current 'hide the ciggies' approach to smoking how would that be achieved?

How do you justify selling this muck, with drug driving or these freaks turning up at casualty for treatment for some sort of drug induced episode?

Falls may be correct. Set up a CDT on the highstreet for everyone going through, then kill all the failures.
 
#11
"Jail the users. Takes out the market."

I would imagine you have just locked up half of Parliament and the Judiciary.

No disrespect but the problem is too widespread and so make it legal and Tax it.
California has just rejected a Law legalising Marijuana, part of the against Campaign was promoted by the Illegal Pot growers.
They did not want cheap competition from Big Business.

john
My bold. Unfortunately that will drive the users right back to the illegal suppliers.
 
#12
Jail the users. Takes out the market. The top-down approach of targeting importers and suppliers doesn't work when your border force is UKBA and the drugs trade is led by a conglomeration of ruthless Colombian Multi-Billionaires.
Ah yes, the US approach. That has, at almost no cost at all, almost eliminated the drugs trade in America, and successfully stopped existing users from using, while repairing the social fabric and reducing drug use amongst the incarcerated, during and after their sentences.

Oh, hang on...
 
#14
Anyone using is locked in a cell on 'cold turkey'. We wont bother with medical facilites, just lock 'em in a 6 by 6 rubber cell and let them go fcuking spastic for a day or two.

Anyone with more than two hits worth of the muck on them get's done for being a dealer. All possesions seized by the state, up for death penalty. The more they squeal about the next levels of their cnuts hierachy the lesser the sentance they receive.

Buy crops from the farmers in Afghanistan and what not. Use it for medicial purposes (ie perscribed heroin to 'volunteer turkeys' trying to get off the stuff willingly (better than methadone)), morphine etc, the rest can get torched.

Hitting the cartels from both sides. No take up, smashing the infrastructure or at lesat making harder to operate, AND driving prices up for the raw product.

Oh, and all users spend time in the stocks, for people to jeer at. Followed by 50 lashes. Especially 'celebrities'. Homeless users, get homed and weened of the sh1t.
My bold, that's what I'd recommend as well. Let's face it, they're gonna keep growing it whatever happens, so instead of funding terry with it, why don't we buy it off them instead and use it for morphine etc. Keeps the farmers happy, while cutting the talibans main source of income at the same time. A rather simplistic view perhaps, but I'm sure we could get something along those lines to work?
 
#16
Ah yes, the US approach. That has, at almost no cost at all, almost eliminated the drugs trade in America, and successfully stopped existing users from using, while repairing the social fabric and reducing drug use amongst the incarcerated, during and after their sentences.

Oh, hang on...
We are an island nation. The US shares a vast and porous border with Mexico. Practically all drugs in the UK come through a few key choke points, but UKBA can't stop the flow for a myriad of reasons, some their fault and others outside of their control. Some Scandinavian countries actually punish users, and have lower rates of consumption/addiction etc;, so it can work if done intelleigently.

Currently, drug use/addiction is seen by the courts as mitigation for other offences. It should be seen as an additional part of offending behaviour and also punished, sentences to run consecutively. Do drink drivers get mitigation for being addicted to alcohol in the courts? NO. So why should druggies.?
 
#17
My bold, that's what I'd recommend as well. Let's face it, they're gonna keep growing it whatever happens, so instead of funding terry with it, why don't we buy it off them instead and use it for morphine etc. Keeps the farmers happy, while cutting the talibans main source of income at the same time. A rather simplistic view perhaps, but I'm sure we could get something along those lines to work?
Or better still, why don't we in the richer nations accept we have to pay a bit more for everyday cash crops, so growing tea/coffee/cocoa/soft fruit is suddenly more profitable than cannabis or opium? I think synthetic drugs for analgesia are preferred by the medics because of quality control, storage and lesser side effects than opiates. However if you are in serious, perhaps terminal pain, morphine has no rivals.
 
#18
Presumably if it is made legal the manufacturers might be allowed to advertise it.

Acme Heroin - it's what your left arm is for!

Our grass is always greener!

Acme Coke - If there's a better high God kept it for himself!

Any other suggestions?
 

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