Time for England to ditch Scotland?

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#3
God, not this again. Within a few postings it'll be a pointless slagging-off thread more suited to the Arrse hole than in here.

Prove me wrong, please.
 
#4
Absolutely, it's healthy for both nations to be controlled by their own leaders rather than the Scots that have taken root in Westminster ordering us to pay higher taxes for free extra deep fried mars bars north of the border.

That the sort of thing you were looking for, Lucky Jim?
 
#5
well it does seem daft for them to have 2 parliaments. Lets cut them loose and get the barbed wire out! Can we do the same to wales too, id hate to be discrimanatory!!!!
 
#6
"Porrige Wogs?" What a disgraceful comment, I'm sure there are millions of ethnic minorities who will be deeply insulted that they have been compared to The Scottish! This is the type of bigotted entry that will lead to you being banned. It isn't The Scots fault that they all stink of pee and cabbage is it?
 
#7
Trying desperately to keep the thread on track.

Is it even possible for Scotland to go it alone? Do they have or could they get enough cash/trade to keep afloat?

They can't rely on the oil or if they try to tax it too heavily then the companies that run the rigs will just start piping it via somewhere else.

There are only so many tartan covered haggis that the Yanks and Japs will buy.

Is it financially feasible for Scotland?

Edited to add..

In its annual survey of the Scottish economy, the Executive said the government spent £45.3 billion in 2003-4, putting Scotland in a rare club of countries where state spending is more than half of the entire economy.

But only £34 billion was generated in tax. This leaves an £11.3 billion gap, which has to be filled by tax collected in England, as Wales and Northern Ireland are also heavily subsidised.

The figures do not include North Sea oil and gas; but the study shows that even if Scotland had collected every penny of tax raised offshore, it would still have required a £7 billion subsidy from England.
 
#8
Back again I see Herrenbloke.

Fellows, this is Current Affairs not the Naafi , leave the PW comments out of it.
 
#10
Surely the question is if England could go alone. As I said in a previous thread, 20% of the British Army are scots. Almost all the oil comes in through Scotland and it would be too expensive to re-route. Nowhere to send illegal immigrants (cant see Belfast or Cardiiff appealing to them). Just because they could not conquer the country is no excuse to cast it adrift. Where would the gippos get their lucky heather.
Think of all the things you would lose, haggis, scotch, the skirl of the pipes, professional violence, early death, deep-fired mars bars, Dundee (no great loss to anyone).

No, England could not manage
 
#11
bobos said:
Surely the question is if England could go alone. As I said in a previous thread, 20% of the British Army are scots. Almost all the oil comes in through Scotland and it would be too expensive to re-route. Nowhere to send illegal immigrants (cant see Belfast or Cardiiff appealing to them). Just because they could not conquer the country is no excuse to cast it adrift. Where would the gippos get their lucky heather.
Think of all the things you would lose, haggis, scotch, the skirl of the pipes, professional violence, early death, deep-fired mars bars, Dundee (no great loss to anyone).

No, England could not manage
So what you're saying is, if we use 80% of the British Army to invade Scotland we can easily defeat the 20% that will try to defend it, and then have one big England. No need for loss of oil revenue etc, and no more two parliaments.
 
#12
bobos said:
Surely the question is if England could go alone. As I said in a previous thread, 20% of the British Army are scots. Almost all the oil comes in through Scotland and it would be too expensive to re-route. Nowhere to send illegal immigrants (cant see Belfast or Cardiiff appealing to them). Just because they could not conquer the country is no excuse to cast it adrift. Where would the gippos get their lucky heather.
Think of all the things you would lose, haggis, scotch, the skirl of the pipes, professional violence, early death, deep-fired mars bars, Dundee (no great loss to anyone).

No, England could not manage
Well a 20% cut in the military at one fell swoop with no cost would give our Tone a fcuking hardon.
 
#13
The average Englishman in the home he call his castle slips into his national costume, a shabby raincoat, patented by Chemist Charles Macintosh from Glasgow, Scotland.

En-route to his office he strides along the English lane, surfaced by John Macadam of Ayr, Scotland.

He drives an English car fitted with tyres invented by John Boyd Dunlop, Veterinary Surgeon of Dreghorn, Scotland.

At the office he receives the mail bearing adhesive stamps invented by John Chalmers, Bookseller and Printer of Dundee, Scotland.

During the day he uses the telephone invented by Alexander Graham Bell, born in Edinburgh, Scotland. At home in the evening his daughter pedals her bicycle invented by Kirkpatrick Macmillan, Blacksmith of Thornhill, Dumfriesshire, Scotland.

He watches the news on television, an invention of John Logie Baird of Helensburgh, Scotland, and hears an item about the U.S. Navy founded by John Paul Jones of Kirkbean, Scotland.

Nowhere can an Englishman turn to escape the ingenuity of the Scots.

He has by now been reminded too much of Scotland and in desperation he picks up the Bible, only to find that the first man mentioned in the good book is a Scot, King James VI, who authorized its translation.

He could take to drink but the Scots make the best in the world.

He could take a rifle and end it all, but the breech-loading rifle was invented by Captain Patrick Ferguson of Pitfours, Scotland.

If he escaped death, he could find himself on an operating table injected with penicillin, discovered by Sir Alexander Fleming of Darvel, Scotland, and given chloroform, an anesthetic discovered by Sir James Young Simpson, Obstetrician and Gynecologist of Bathgate, Scotland.

Out of the anesthetic he would find no comfort in learning that he was as safe as the Bank of England founded by William Paterson of Dumfries, Scotland.

Perhaps his only remaining hope would be to get a transfusion of guid Scottish blood which would entitle him to ask:

"Wha's Like Us?"

Plus we own the oil and gas that you can't live without - sorry.
 
#14
Rowums - oh shit, never thought of that, though there is a wall and it seems to have worked well for a few thousand years.
 
#16
I read somewhere that if London and the Home Counties were to become independent they would be the worlds 11th most powerful economy and have one of the highest incomes per capita.

I can see the validity of this argument; what Englishman is not tired of hearing the SNP waffle on about being free from London - yet they are pro Federal Europe!?. Or that they would rely on North Sea oil to prop up the Scottish economy? (The North Sea is one of the most expensive oil fields expolit - which English money has paid for. Oh and it only has a few years left - cue nuclear debate).

My heart says let the Scottish get on with it - become independent, start raking in those EU subsidies and become a quaint backwater for tourists to visit.

My head however worries about the effect on dear old England. What about the Nuclear deterrant, The Scottish Regiments, The Security Council seat and of course, we would be politically and economically smaller than France! Shocker!
 
#17
Plus we own the oil and gas that you can't live without - sorry.
Not wishing to side with either side of this argument - but does the oil and gas actually belong to Scotland? I thought it was owned by the companies that pump it from the North Sea?
 
#18
Rowums said:
No, England could not manage
So what you're saying is, if we use 80% of the British Army to invade Scotland we can easily defeat the 20% that will try to defend it, and then have one big England. No need for loss of oil revenue etc, and no more two parliaments.[/quote]

You are kidding yourself if you think the 80% southern jessies could take our 20% steel edged scottish grit!!!!!! :lol:
 
#19
I read somewhere that if London and the Home Counties were to become independent they would be the worlds 11th most powerful economy and have one of the highest incomes per capita.
That's not good - I thought Britain was the worlds fourth/fifth biggest economy anyway?

Edited to add - besides you can apply those sort of statistics to any country's capital.
 
#20
Anybody out there, remember a country called Yugoslavia?

It was a proud, but poor psuedo-communist country that under the hard,if Nationalist, hand of Tito,stood up to the Soviet Union.

Then Tito died,and the prosperous parts,namely Slovenia and Croatia,didn´t want to pay for the poorer parts,including Serbia,who provided most of its young men to serve in the Army.

Eventually this once proud land,who had defeated the Turks;And ,slaughtered them,all the way back home,as a warning not to return,disolved into a fragmented mass.

Serbia,was defeated in a few weeks of NATO bombing.No former Yugoslavian state could defend itself effectively against a foreign power.

So,all you people,who want to get rid of the Union,are prepared to weaken Britain,make it a shadow of its former self;Infest the people with Nationalist hatred and possibly start a bloody civil war.

Far fetched?what if we Taffs cut off your water supply from the Elan Valley;Will you quitely stand there and die of thirst,I think not!What if the Scots,decide to stop the flow of oil?Remembering that even a few weeks of shortages would bring most of Britain to a standstill!

A lot of English,in the 18th Century,took all they could out of Wales,Scotland and of course the North East of England;Now I´m afraid the Chickens are coming home to roost,the South is going to pay for their robbing ancestors,or face the consequences.

I don´t know about the rest of you,but I wouldn´t like to go to war,without a couple of Jock Regiments nearby.I´d certainly not want to provoke them into turning against me!

Having watched other countries divide and become weaker,I don´t think that breaking up the Union is a good Idea,for anybody.

Midnight.
 

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