"Three things the US Army Chief of Staff Wants You to Know"

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  1. Curiously I have just this minute finished rereading Bernard Fall's excellent, if now somewhat dated "Street Without Joy". First published in 1961, it clearly identifies these 3 points and a good few more as contributory factors in France's misery. You can have all the Lessons Identified claptrap you want but if you find convenient ways to ignore/massage what you know to be true then you're in trouble.

    True, the technological explosion complicates matters but you ignore the small bands of determined men ideologically committed to a cause at your peril. We seem to have perfected this art and are really rather good at it. Which is a worry.
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  2. Absolutely, but an interesting theory, and one that allows for cultural and educational change but with an underlying and major genetic factor, and has been well researched. Of course horribly politically incorrect.

    Your other points are absolutely agreed with though interesting to see that despite hacking and concentrating on advancing their engine technology they still seem to be a bit behind.
  3. Caecilius

    Caecilius LE Reviewer Book Reviewer

    I disagree with all of that.

    On the first point, you can easily test a population by determining the characteristics of that population. You don't need to find the exact gene responsible for intelligence (assuming that there is a singe gene, which is extraordinarily unlikely), to just need to define your population appropriately. People of Asian origin living in the UK/US is perhaps too broad, but it's easy to narrow down.

    IQ tests are very much up for debate in terms of what they show, but there is a measurable difference in IQ test performance between different populations. That in itself is significantly

    Lastly, the scientific community makes a priori assumptions all the time. That is how you arrive at a hypothesis to test. You said that you believe the difference is more down to socialogical factors - why? That is an a priori assumption. There's certainly no data to suggest it.
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  4. I'm sure you do, but until you provide scientific evidence I'm not really interested in what you believe.
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  5. Caecilius

    Caecilius LE Reviewer Book Reviewer

    Fair, but by the same logic nobody should be all that interested in your evidence-free thoughts on the heritability of IQ question either, so I'm unclear why you felt the need to post about it.
  6. I don't have any problem with his contention that groups will develop to suit their environment, or that although it hasn't be proved that development will involves elements of genetic selection. I do take issue with his contention that IQ testing shows inherent differences between racial groups and that these are genetic, for the reasons I've outlined in my post above.
  7. Caecilius

    Caecilius LE Reviewer Book Reviewer

    Because you've made an a priori assumption with no evidence to back it up?
  8. If you say so.
  9. Interesting .... and just what business management is about

  10. At work the other day someone said "yeah of course the Chinese can throw 4 PHds paid nothing at any problem"
  11. Goatman

    Goatman LE Book Reviewer

    Interesting dit from US Army headshed.

    i feel this is a key point:

    With less than 1 percent of the population serving in the military, the divide between the military and American society is growing ever deeper. Moreover, those who do serve are often the same 1 percent from one generation to the next, since the vast majority of those who volunteer are related to someone who has served. Milley recognizes the dangers inherent in that divide, both for the military and for our larger society. Surprisingly, he put the onus on closing that gap squarely on those who wear khaki and camouflage:

    On the RN side of the house, I recall this point being discussed at 2SL's Board of Management meetings in the 1990s.

    Beyond the rather old fashioned 'Keeping the Army in the public Eye KAPE' activities,which are routinely constrained by lunatic bean counting, I'm not convinced that we are doing well on this point.

    The General's background with American 'Them' probably gives him a slightly different perspective from Big Army career soldiers.

    I imagine British Army trainers are also urging people to think non-insurgency, heavy metal war again?
  12. National Guard and US Army Reserves both go through full-time basic training and advanced training before resuming their civilian lives and putting in the one weekend a month.
    So despite not being full time soldiers, they got the same start to their reserve careers as professional soldiers.
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  13. What about MOS training?
  14. That's the advanced training...length of which depends on MOS. So corps training like infantryman or gunner is itself an MOS, but so is linguist, IT specialist or EOD. I've heard they can go from a few weeks to a year but I've no idea how the longer courses would be broken down, my only National Guard friend was infantry.