This should throw the tofu munchers into a tizzy

#2
These medieval twats cant help showing their true colours, if they say these things publicly what else are they going to implement if, more likely when, they gain more power in the U.K. The left wing press wont be firing up their outrage bus thats for sure.
 
#3
Tofu-munchers, and I looked at this thinking that it would be about cookery!

Having said that, let me start by saying that I am a huge opponent of sharia as law on two reasons, firstly that it reflects the vision of only SOME people of how life should be lived and that they have no right to impose it on others who differ. Secondly it has no place in Britain's cultural heritage. If some people wish for their lives to be guided by those disciplines then good luck to them, but it has no place in mine nor should it.

That said I wonder how much of the article is jazzed up for shock effect. The man did say that rape as such doesn't occur within marriage, by which I imagine he is trying to say that it is different to forcing yourself on a non-consenting person with whom you have not had sexual relations before. 'Maybe aggression, maybe indecent activity... Because when they got married, the understanding was that sexual intercourse was part of the marriage, so there cannot be anything against sex in marriage.
'Of course, if it happened without her desire, that is no good, that is not desirable.'
He did qualify it by saying that agression may occur, and that if it happens without her consent that is not desirable.
Those last comments seem to me to be saying that forcing yourself on your wife is not right, but he is arguing about the semantics not the fact.
He also held forth about using rape as an excuse for divorce which may actually be a valid point.
Finally he talked about disciplining a husband who is found guilty of aggression, which seems positive to me, I seem to recall other muslim leaders who wouldn't go that far.

He does come across as fairly hardliner, but in this case I think the article is as much to blame as he is, the comments he made give a fair basis for further discussion.

Put the keys to the bus back in the work-ticket
 
#4
Tofu's a bit like bestiality or genocide: nowt wrong with it in moderation.
 

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#5
What happens if your Missus forces herself upon you? Is that rape, or not?


I mean, it must happen somewhere.......
 
#6
Well it's definitely going to throw the outrage whores into a tizzy, that's for sure!

And of course all the excitement will be based on what the DMail says he said, rather than the actual quotes in full.

Hey ho, same old same old.
 
#7
What happens if your Missus forces herself upon you? Is that rape, or not?


I mean, it must happen somewhere.......
I tried to fight your missus off Oldsnowy but she took advantage in the end.
 
#9
I hate to close the doors on the outrage bus but it was only 1990 when we outlawed spousal rape.

Spousal rape - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Given that they have yet to have a Muslim enlightenment as we did in the eighteenth century. Given that they do have three hundred years of legal and social development to catch up on(not sure if the enlightenment has reached the RGJ yet) then we can hardly expect modern concepts like rights, votes and equality for women to be part of their agenda just yet.
 
#10
I hate to close the doors on the outrage bus but it was only 1990 when we outlawed spousal rape.

Spousal rape - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Given that they have yet to have a Muslim enlightenment as we did in the eighteenth century. Given that they do have three hundred years of legal and social development to catch up on(not sure if the enlightenment has reached the RGJ yet) then we can hardly expect modern concepts like rights, votes and equality for women to be part of their agenda just yet.
Fair comment. You beat me to it about the year we outlawed spousal rape.
 
#12
And according to this type of people it's OK to cut of your wifes nose and ears if she runs away, aside from the fact she was promised at 12 and sent to live with him at 14 makes them a bunch of paedos too

nose and ears cut off - Google Search
On what grounds? British law? Not that long ago we were marrying girls of that age off to cement alliances and what not.

As mentioned by GW, in UK we only made it illegal to rape your wife in the 90's before that there was no such act as raping your wife.

Having said that, the nutter making such quotes now a days needs ejecting from the country. We have no place for such backwards fcuktards. He should go to some stoneage country where they are just as backwards as he.
 
#14
I hate to close the doors on the outrage bus but it was only 1990 when we outlawed spousal rape.

Spousal rape - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Given that they have yet to have a Muslim enlightenment as we did in the eighteenth century. Given that they do have three hundred years of legal and social development to catch up on(not sure if the enlightenment has reached the RGJ yet) then we can hardly expect modern concepts like rights, votes and equality for women to be part of their agenda just yet.
I was wondering how long it was going to take for somebody to remember that it was only 1,990 years before we got the message that rape within marriage is wrong,let´s see If they can stop stoning before we stopped burning witches,we might have to wait two or three hundred years but I suppose we didn´t have the advantage of being invaded to have our beliefs stuffed down their throats.
 
#17
I suppose we could all buy Sheikh Maulana Abu Sayeed wife a strap on for Christmas and see if he still thinks rape is ok in marriage.
 
#18
Of course Sheikh Maulana Abu Sayeed is a silly old fart, but the West moved only relatively recently on this. Alleged Christians (and Jews) were happily raping the Mrs for hundreds of years.

Countries which were early to criminalize marital rape include Poland (1932), Czechoslovakia (1950), the Soviet Union (1960), Denmark (1960), Sweden (1965), Norway (1971), and some other members of the Communist Bloc. The Israeli Supreme Court affirmed that marital rape is a crime in a 1980 decision, citing law based on the Talmud. Criminalization in Australia began with the state of New South Wales in 1981, followed by all other states from 1985 to 1992. Several formerly British-ruled countries followed suit: Canada (1982), New Zealand (1985), and Ireland (1990).

Spousal rape - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Plus British Muslims are deeply split on this. These ridiculous greybeards only remain in control because the West keeps poking Islam with a shitty stick. Leave the poor buggers alone, stop invading their countries, stop dropping bombs on wedding parties and allowing the EDL to torment Muslim communities in Britain (plus the anti-Islamic Tea Party morons in the States) and idiot Conservative Muslim greybeards will get the boot from their own communities.
 
#19
Of course Sheikh Maulana Abu Sayeed is a silly old fart, but the West moved only relatively recently on this. Alleged Christians (and Jews) were happily raping the Mrs for hundreds of years.



Plus British Muslims are deeply split on this. These ridiculous greybeards only remain in control because the West keeps poking Islam with a shitty stick. Leave the poor buggers alone, stop invading their countries, stop dropping bombs on wedding parties and allowing the EDL to torment Muslim communities in Britain (plus the anti-Islamic Tea Party morons in the States) and idiot Conservative Muslim greybeards will get the boot from their own communities.
Ah! peace in our times ....................... If we ignore or appease these stoneage morons, things will get better eh? I think not.
 
#20
Why did it take us so long to figure this out?

Well the information is much more freely available now for anyone to look into the past and see what has happened. No need to say it took us so long so they can now be barbaric for hundreds or thousands of years. Information used to be only available to the select few in the past remember...Now you get information overload, but rape is rape.
 

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