Thinking About Joining As EHT - Pros and Cons

#1
I am thinking about joining up as an EHT and you may guess by the useername I am undecided as to which of the 2 services to join. I have spoken to an EHT at my nearest RAF unit and got his opinion. I am now after the serving Army line on the pro's and Con's not just the recruiters idea of what I probably want to hear. I am pretty much decided on the branch it is just a case of deciding which service.

Any help would be greatly appreciated e.g. promotion times, education, Ops etc I have the fairly blunt view of the RAF guy on both the RAF and his idea of the Army, just after a balanced arguement to base my decision on.

Cheers
 
#2
It depends on what you are into basically. traditionaly, RAF like to focus on the Occ Hygiene and Army on the nitty gritty basic field hygiene stuff, although that is changing as RAF techs get more involved in the Op deployments. If your idea of an Op deployment is to sit at an airfield and do the base rat stuff, then join the RAF (although you will do a bit of that in the Army). If you like the idea of mixing it with the troops although from a REMFY perspective, then join the Army. You will also get your fair share of overseas exercises to all parts of the world with the Army, whereas the same opportunities are very limited with the RAF. The Training is joint Army/RAF so its all down to your own perspective

PM me if you need any specific advice
 
#3
Join the Army.......

The opportunities for promotiom in the long term are much better, chicks dig the uniform and the rest of the Armed Forces will not assume your a W@nker!
 
#4
What sort of things would i do as a junior in a team as the RAF guy seemed to have quite a lot of responsibility and was pretty much his own boss. He also mentioned that juniors in the RAF are covering Ops as the Army dont have enough to fill them.

RAF has time promotion what about my promotion prospects in the Army? the RAf guy said that the Army get promoted very quickly compared to them.
 
#5
Mutley_Macc_Ladd said:
Join the Army.......

The opportunities for promotiom in the long term are much better, chicks dig the uniform and the rest of the Armed Forces will not assume your a W@nker!
I know this wont come as a great suprise to you but the RAF guy said a similar thing only that the rest of the armed forces would think i was a bit simple if i joined the Army.....
 

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#6
Your RAF contact sounds like an absolute tosser and the fact that he has to rely on slating another Service to put some gloss on his own speaks volumes. Want to end up like him? Crack on! Interestingly, we (the RAMC) have more officers and soldiers wishing to transfer from the RAF than vice-versa. Does that tell you enough?

On reflection, it probably tells you bugger all but as your RAF windbag has given me the spleen, I thought I would just have a little mini-rant.

(I'll bet he's got chippy creases sewn into his CS 95 uniform as well).
 
#7
To be fair to the RAF a guy he did say 2 SNCO's had recently transfered to Army from the trade as there were no suitable candidates from within the Army.

He wasnt Army bashing all the time and did say quite a lot of positives for the Army, one being promotion being faster, any truth in that???
 
#8
When i finished the phase 2 training how would i be treated at a team if posted to one. The RAF lad i spent the day with said your junior people are not trusted to do much and so dont gain experience very quickly compared to the EHT's in the RAF (working alone) and that because of this they get more experience quicker rank for rank.

I am currently working for the Env Agency and work by myself managing my workload/appointments etc and would want to try to have a role which could give the same sort of responsibility for my own sanity. I realise as a private soldier this would be unlikely but does being part of a more specialist trade help with this?? Also are there any more specialist areas of Env Health as I am an Env Scientist (grand title + bad Pay) or does everyone just cover all aspects?

Once again any help is appreciated.
 
#9
pongo?crab? said:
He also mentioned that juniors in the RAF are covering Ops as the Army dont have enough to fill them.
Ive got to have a moan here - dont believe what youre told if its not come from the horse's ARRSE. :tp: There are junior army techs who are crying out for tours but arent getting 'em cos the raf seem to want to prove they have a warry side.

If this is a wind up, its worked. I'll just take the hook from my mouth. :pissedoff:
 
#10
I've served as an Army tech for more years than I can remember (mind you, I do have a very short memory).

As a junior tech I went to Belize, Kenya, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Bahrain to name just a few places. how does that compare to being sat at the end of a runway with your clipboardin your hand? 8O

obviously when I was fresh from training I wasn't allowed to run wild, but I was allowed to work unsupervised for much of the time, and this including inspections and visits to all manner of units.

I see working on your own (RAF style) as a big disadvantage - as a junior tech we Army types gain lots of experience from the older and more experienced people we work with.

Yes, we had two of your FSgts transfer (Commission) across to the Army, but theat was because they were both in stalemate positions with very little prospects of promotion in the RAF. They've both made a smooth transition (even the ginger haired geordie bloke) and I don't think they regret it on bit.

If you want to work on your own, not go anywhere exciting and don't have any real ambitions for promotion, then become an RAF tech. If you want to work in a team, learn constantly and get your knees brown, then join the Army.

As for the Army techs being thick, just bear in mind that the Army and RAF techs train together on the same course, and the RAF came to us, not us to them. I believe a higher proportion of RAF students failed the course / were sacked, than Army students!

Enough said?
 
#11
Whats the betting the RAF tech that spoke to this guy is a Warrant Officer, has a big boufon style haircut, and doesnt buy a round at the bar?
 
#12
I've just realised - at last we EH people now have a new thread - we can once again ignore the original queston and go off on a complete tangent!

Well done Pongo? Crab?
 
#14
That's what I meant - that last thread (now 23 pages I think) rapidly lost the plot - no doubt this one will. Mind you, at least we now have a legitimate reason to slag off the RAF!!
 
#16
bert_trautmanns_helmet said:
pongo?crab? said:
He also mentioned that juniors in the RAF are covering Ops as the Army dont have enough to fill them.
Ive got to have a moan here - dont believe what youre told if its not come from the horse's ARRSE. :tp: There are junior army techs who are crying out for tours but arent getting 'em cos the raf seem to want to prove they have a warry side.



So are you saying that if i wanted to do more Ops quickly i should join the RAF, that sounds a little bit mental as i have been told they just sit at airfields when on ops??...

The RAF guy mentioned you work in teams with both RAF and Army was this balls?. If not have you seen a difference in the techs? I realise i will only be getting the Army opinions but i have already recieved the RAF view and it did go on a bit.....

I ask about experience with the RAF and Army on Ops as this is one of the reasons i was thinking of joining up.
 
#17
Those of you who know me will concur that I enjoy a good moan with the best of them. However, Army EH is by far one of the best trades in the AMS and, probably, the Army due to the level of qualifications possible, the scope of employment, responsibility and flexible of post. Couple that with a (generally) good bunch of blokes and the scope to be a specialist whilst getting down and dirty with the guys on the ground (no pun intended) wherever the military operate in the world and I, all in all, don't think its too bad.

Prospects for new techs are generally pretty good, with scope to progress and qualify to a high level well up on the agenda if you are willing to put in the time. If all else fails, you'll have a great suite of quals and a reputation in EH (or any of its specialisms) which employers outside will bite your hand off for. And you'll develop a healthy taste for stella artois!

So far as Army or RAF - the crabs promotion prospects are generally not as good, they do largely work alone which may suit you but means you miss out on the comeradary and experience of your peers and superiors (which is worth its weight in gold) and you won't deploy as much. And you have to wear poncy blues (or shorts and knee high socks in hot climates) - all a bit gay if you ask me.

Get in, get trained, get green and get out there and reap it for everything it has to offer. Army EH is for winners !!!!!!

If this is a wah post, then I bit too! :D
 
#18
I have just been Pm'd by an ex army medic who 'says' that he has worked with both RAF and Army technicians on Ops and found that the RAF tech seemed to "Know his Gen"!!?? far more than the Army Technician who was a couple of ranks higher.

He also mentioned that he tried to transfer to the RAF as an EHT but was told he was to old.???

So far i have quite a lot of pros on the ops side for the army compared to the RAF as i am more inclined to believe your guys views than his based on what both the services do.

I still dont know a lot about what the army techs do in the uk and why they have to work in teams etc.

All help is gretafully recieved i am leaning to the Army side as the term gay has been used by a couple of you in connection with the RAF although to be fair to the RAF guy he didnt say anything about the army tech sexuality only intelligence as previously mentioned his real venting of his spleen came from his impression that the RAF were doing army op tours as they were to lazy to do them.

Oh and i am already well aquainted with le madam wifebeater.
 
#19
I notice that you are currently working for EA, have you considered a career with CESO? May be closer to what you are doing now and at least you will retain/gain responsibility.

If, on the other hand, you prefer a slight career change (EP to EH) and wish to serve in uniform, I'm sure that either service will welcome and develop your existing knowledge and skills sets.

We are increasingly working jointly these days and there is so much variation in different roles/teams in both services I wouldn't worry about being stuck on an airfield on ops. You may end up in this situation as an Army Tech just as you may find yourself at a forward location as a Crab Tech.

My only regret at joining the Army has been that I am told when to dress for cold weather (winter starts on 5th Nov for me this year). My RAF colleagues are usually allowed to decide for themselves if the weather is cold or hot and dress accordingly, so yes, they really do have greater autonomy and responsibility!!!
 

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