They open-fired on us!

#1
from a BBC survey about grammatical misuse http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7595509.stm

10. Here's one they often get wrong on BBC news! BBC reporter: "Then they opened fire on us". This is incorrect. In military terms there are two methods of shooting at an enemy, controlled-fire and open-fire. I.E. you are not opening anything so using the past tense of open is incorrect. The correct expression should be "Then they open-fired on us"
JWTH, Belfast
any thoughts...? :?
 
#3
The dictionary references are all rather lengthy, but seem to confirm that there is:

1) open-fire (noun)
2) controlled-fire (noun)

and

3) "to open fire" (verb) .. meaning to begin firing. The past tense of which is opened fire.

That pedant seems to have posted that elsewhere (or his post copied to other sites).
 
#4
Shouldn't it then read, "The opened open-fire on us"?

Always assuming that the fire was the open-fire variety and not the controlled-fire type. (Is it that easy to tell when you're on the receiving end?)

Should probably be "upon", rather than "on". edit: No, it should be "at".


Don't really care, anyway. I don't work for the BBC.
 
#5
The BBC may criticise others when its own presenters stop saying Canida instead of Canada.

Harumph!
 
#7
The sheer indignity of it all. Not only are you under fire but the buggars are using incorrect grammar whilst doing so!

Harumphhhhhh
 
#8
They opened up fire upon us?

This chap is more wrong than a whole bag of wrong things, tied up wrong and thrown into the wrong canal. Perchance he could explain the difference between open and controlled fire? Is he suggesting that we may be liable to indulge in uncontrolled fire?
 
#11
Bat_Crab said:
They opened up fire upon us?

This chap is more wrong than a whole bag of wrong things, tied up wrong and thrown into the wrong canal. Perchance he could explain the difference between open and controlled fire? Is he suggesting that we may be liable to indulge in uncontrolled fire?
Probably just taking pity on Will.
 

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#12
Tw4t let rip at me so I brassed the choggie cunt right up

Does that help?
 
#13
The_Goon said:
BambiBasher said:
How about "They started shooting at us"?
Seems to cover all the bases well. Bloody pedants.
I don't know, but I'd like to open fire at JWTH in Belfast, preferably with a GPMG. :roll:
 
#15
CRmeansCeilingReached said:
from a BBC survey about grammatical misuse http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7595509.stm

10. Here's one they often get wrong on BBC news! BBC reporter: "Then they opened fire on us". This is incorrect. In military terms there are two methods of shooting at an enemy, controlled-fire and open-fire. I.E. you are not opening anything so using the past tense of open is incorrect. The correct expression should be "Then they open-fired on us"
JWTH, Belfast
any thoughts...? :?
I dunno why, but I've this image in me head of you ducking down in a dust ditch somewhere with rounds cracking overhead and discussing this with your nearest oppo. :D :D :D

MsG
 
#18
Controlled-fire and open-fire? Hmm I must have been asleep in that lesson. The phrase "Open fire!" meaning to commence shooting relates not to method of fire control but to the method of initiation of matchlocks. The frizzen would be opened and the "fire", or rather the slow-match, applied to the powder.

So opened fire would be the correct perfect tense. Just as the BBC are all cnuts would be grammatically accurate.

From the rules of the Muzzleloaders Association..."307 No snapping of caps or pan flashing before the signal is given to 'Open Fire'."
 
#19
Bugsy said:
CRmeansCeilingReached said:
from a BBC survey about grammatical misuse http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7595509.stm

10. Here's one they often get wrong on BBC news! BBC reporter: "Then they opened fire on us". This is incorrect. In military terms there are two methods of shooting at an enemy, controlled-fire and open-fire. I.E. you are not opening anything so using the past tense of open is incorrect. The correct expression should be "Then they open-fired on us"
JWTH, Belfast
any thoughts...? :?
I dunno why, but I've this image in me head of you ducking down in a dust ditch somewhere with rounds cracking overhead and discussing this with your nearest oppo. :D :D :D

MsG
Have a word with yourself; he's Slime, being shot at is what happens to other people. :D

galgenberg said:
Dubb_al_Ibn said:
"They initiated the kinetic contact situation."....sorted.
"HOUSE!"
Ah! Buzzword bingo... always useful for staying awake during long and pointless meetings. :roll: :wink:
 

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