They got their £20m anyway....

#1
MTD Budgets look shaky, cuts on their way - you heard it here first.

Two tier TA, here we come.

In the OCP? You'll get money. Not in? You won't.

They got their £20m anyway.
 
#2
Hmm I would have lost money on that! What did you expect?
 
#3
DarkNinja said:
Hmm I would have lost money on that! What did you expect?
No surprise here other than that it looks like it will be within the first three months of the FY, not some way down the line when the rest of the public sector are being whipped by Cleggy and Camerflage
 

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#4
MrTracey said:
MTD Budgets look shaky, cuts on their way - you heard it here first.

Two tier TA, here we come.

In the OCP? You'll get money. Not in? You won't.

They got their £20m anyway.
Ths was always on the cards. Mind you, there is one element that LAND have not factored in - and that's how a new government, with a fair sprinkling of Reservists, will react, once it gets its act together.

Pretty much the only thing keeping the TA from dismemberment and ultimately disbandment (apart from the influence wielded by the TAVRAs/RFCAs, which is not to be underestimated either) a few years ago was the lobbying by politicians; it could be their hope in the future as well.
 
#5
Hmmm I would have hoped that, given Gordon's desparate backtrack late last year when the news of TA cuts broke, the new Govt would have realised that cutting the funding to the reserves whilst they are being deployed and used in such a way was A Bad Thing, both in terms of the reservists produced and PR with the public...

I had thought we might have a re-run of that episode but had thought it would come at least at the end of this year, when the money had run dry - to implement it at the beginning of the year as SOP seems particularly vicious :/
 
#6
sorry for being dumb but what is ocp?
 
#8
OldSnowy said:
MrTracey said:
MTD Budgets look shaky, cuts on their way - you heard it here first.

Two tier TA, here we come.

In the OCP? You'll get money. Not in? You won't.

They got their £20m anyway.
Ths was always on the cards. Mind you, there is one element that LAND have not factored in - and that's how a new government, with a fair sprinkling of Reservists, will react, once it gets its act together.

Pretty much the only thing keeping the TA from dismemberment and ultimately disbandment (apart from the influence wielded by the TAVRAs/RFCAs, which is not to be underestimated either) a few years ago was the lobbying by politicians; it could be their hope in the future as well.
And the way things are starting to pan out in westminster its a good stick with which to beat the coalition over the head with.

'Our brave boys' etc, but if it doesn't pan out not that many people will be directly effected- 30,00 ish so its a win-win for the politicans.
 
#9
spad said:
sorry for being dumb but what is ocp?
Its when you do things like hoovering five times a day, constantly washing your hands, etc.
 
#10
Bravo_Bravo said:
spad said:
sorry for being dumb but what is ocp?
Its when you do things like hoovering five times a day, constantly washing your hands, etc.
:D
 
#11
OldSnowy said:
MrTracey said:
MTD Budgets look shaky, cuts on their way - you heard it here first.

Two tier TA, here we come.

In the OCP? You'll get money. Not in? You won't.

They got their £20m anyway.
Ths was always on the cards. Mind you, there is one element that LAND have not factored in - and that's how a new government, with a fair sprinkling of Reservists, will react, once it gets its act together.

Pretty much the only thing keeping the TA from dismemberment and ultimately disbandment (apart from the influence wielded by the TAVRAs/RFCAs, which is not to be underestimated either) a few years ago was the lobbying by politicians; it could be their hope in the future as well.
Judging from what I am hearing, we'll need the RFCA again and quick. Not least as this seems to be self inflicted - not sure Liam Fox can be aware at this stage.
 
#12
so what about units deploying 5/6 indivduals?
 
#14
DarkNinja said:
devilish said:
Bravo_Bravo said:
spad said:
sorry for being dumb but what is ocp?
Its when you do things like hoovering five times a day, constantly washing your hands, etc.
:D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omni_Consumer_Products
Robostab on its way?

We could perhaps do with a few in our unit, we never seem to get anyone in these days. We are still parading every other week though and even I have lost track of what night we are parading on.

Seriously think the TA needs a bit of a drastic shake up anyway to come more into line with what the regulars do and be represenative of current ops instead of practicing old cold war stuff and living for the social events as an excuse to get mess dress on (That doesnt apply to everyone).
 

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#15
This has nothing to do with Whitehall, the MOD, or the Government. It's a savings measure made to help LAND balance their books - which are as awful as the rest of the MOD, I would imagine.

I doubt very much whether this has even got to Ministers or, if it has, it would probably have been disguised as something anodyne along the lines of "TA Funding next year will be the same as last year" - omitting to add that last year was a dog's breakfast - and slipped through before the old regime departed.
 
#16
Where did this info come from??

Linky please!
 
#17
MrTracey said:
MTD Budgets look shaky, cuts on their way - you heard it here first.

Two tier TA, here we come.

In the OCP? You'll get money. Not in? You won't.

They got their £20m anyway.
Shame we didn't hear it from one of our Grownups... but telling too.

msr
 
#18
MSI64 said:
Where did this info come from??

Linky please!
Mate, it's a rumour service...
 
#19
MrTracey said:
In the OCP? You'll get money. Not in? You won't.
And you think this is any different in the Regs? Wake up and smell the coffee.

Unless you hadn't heard we are destitute and need to prosecute a costly campaign overseas. We are all suffering from cutbacks. Ask any Reg unit what it is like getting people on courses etc if they aren't in PDT/MST, answer = v difficult. TA cost-saving measures are not a personal slight on TA servicemen, they are necessary in the same way that SCE schools have taken a hit and why the Army has been told to make £50m+ in-year savings on the trg budget already!

Clearly it would be nice to maintain a fully trained/attended TA but this simply isn't possible under current financial constraints. It is not the best way to manage the manpower but it is a necessary evil given the stark options facing HQLF. Op ENTIRETY/Campaign FORM need IRs and the occasoinal formed pl/tp and that is unlikely to change. Sure, this may produce a TA that is significantly different to today but you have to recognise, as unpalatable as it may be, that the TA exists to support the Reg Army, not the other way round!
 

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