Theresa May Backs 'Snooper's Charter' Powers

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  1. Though it's clear that the Police should have some power to 'snoop', accessing things like social media messages and browsing history is just as intrusive as phone tapping or physical surveillance. We're protected from the latter by stringent safeguards, but I'm concerned that the same protection won't apply to online activities.

    Phone taps and physical surveillance are resource intensive and have to be pro-actively put into place. Conversely, monitoring Internet activity can be carried out indiscriminately and en masse, and made available on demand. Though firm details don't seem to be available, the presentation suggests that the legal safeguards will not be at the same level.

    It's very easy to say "nothing to hide, nothing to fear", but there are a huge number of ways in which this could be abused. For example:

    The logical conclusion of access to this much data is profiling. That is, grouping and risk-scoring people based on their search history and online behaviour.

    If you're so inclined, you can approach a security company and obtain records from the Police National Computer for a few hundred quid. If you could also obtain social media messages and browsing history, the potential for blackmail, character assassination and various other nefarious activities is huge.

    Digging up Dirt
    The fact is that we all break the law at some point. The system works because it's not possible to detect every crime and most go unnoticed. However, with enough information, there isn't a person on this forum who would be safe from prosecution.

    Given the very small number of terrorist incidents that have occurred in the UK in recent years, and the fact that this won't in itself stop them from happening again, is this legislation necessary or in any way proportionate to the threat?
  2. It's not so much the Police or security services having access, the original snooper plans would have allowed any arrse from the local Council to have access too. Has that element been dropped? Having the Council given access to calls and emails and social media is OTT if they're out to nab you for having one too many rubbish bags in the bin or a bag in the wrong bin or your dog crapped outside your gate.
  3. It's almost enough to make a sane person buy some tin foil head wear, disconnect from the internet for good & find a cave to live out their days in off radar. It's all very Orwellian & not necessary.
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  4. I don't think this'll become Law as it stands. The Liberal Democrats have stated they'll remove themselves from the Coalition Government if this bill is introduced.
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  5. I'm all for government snooping and am hoping they will come round my place and find the remote control for my TV. I haven't seen it since Tuesday. And no, it's not down the back of the settee.
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  6. I'm not sure. If she's talking about the same bill they ditched a month ago, then no warrant is required and the information is available to all sorts of Government agencies.

    Apologies for the link to Liberty, but they make the case much better and in more detail than I have:
  7. Might bring back a resurgence in the old paper format porno mag!
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  8. Some humorous website did a pretend-story about his bill a while back, in which every time May is challenged she replies, 'Paedo 9/11.'

    That seems to be current Tory policy.
  9. Every URL you visit for six months, with plans for longer. That is now!
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  10. Can they remove themselves from the Gene pool while they are at it
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  11. Have the police and security already have these powers? But have to give good reason?
  12. I suppose this means I'll have to buy a PAYG smartphone to download bomb recipes, kiddie-porn and Inspire magazine?

    Talk about rip-off Britain!
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  13. Isn't it about now the phrase " nothing to hide, nothing to fear" phrase comes out.............oh bugger
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