there are plans to invade Venezuela

#1
http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/International/story?id=1134098&page=3

CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR):I'm telling you that I have evidence that there are plans to invade Venezuela. Furthermore, we have documentation: how many bombers to overfly Venezuela on the day of the invasion, how many trans-Atlantic carriers, how many aircraft carriers need to be sent to ...
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All on documentation. The plan is called Balboa, where Venezuela is indicated as an objective.
 
#2
5 years ago , I'd have suggested Chavez had shares in Bacofoil.

Now, I'm not so sure.
 
#3
Undoubtedly the Pentagon does have plans to invade Venezuela - and just about every other country on Earth. Staff planning exercises, contingency plans, whatever - doesn't mean there's any chance they'll be put into practice.
 
#5
Yes but the US has already tried to provoke a coup there using the media in order to get Chavez out of power for pandering to the soap dodgers and nationalising the place.

The US goverment was the first (and only) to recognise the new government before Chavez managed to wrestle back control.

There was a documentry on BBC 2 about it a while ago but otherwise I don't recall hearing much about it.
 
#7
The USA has always viewed South America as its own backyard where it can do as it pleases. It also gives one a clear idea of how the USA would like the rest of the world to be........
 
#9
No big thing. The Pentagon has plans to invade pretty much anywhere on Planet Earth as a matter of SOP It's a simple matter of preparation for any eventuality and giving staff officers something to do with their time.

The real question is how recently the plans were updated. Remember also that prior to Iraq and Afghanistan, the largest operational overseas deployment of US forces was in Colombia. My guess is that if there are any recent plans, it's just becasue Southern Command is doing a spot of house cleaning on a plan that hasn't changed since the Cold War.

Chavez either has inflated sense of his own importance or a tinfoil hat. Maybe both.
 
#10
Let see, what have Chavez done wrong and need to be invaded? Increasing social spending by any chance? If he is democractic elected offical with a popular backing, what is the ground to invade his country? Is it not a war of aggression?
 
#11
crabtastic said:
...the largest operational overseas deployment of US forces was in Colombia.
Interresting, didn't realize that 54 military personnel (count as of 2003) in Colombia exceeded the US forces present in South Korea or Germany of the same year.

http://www.ciponline.org/facts/co.htm#military

We also have plans to invade France, is a single page document and can be summarized: show up with guns and they will surrender.
 
#12
Amazing how the US have a department called Defense (sic), when all it knows is Offense (sic). Still, I suppose it's easy to purloin the money to pay for it from the ignorant straw-sucking sad hinterland excuses for intelligent human life
 
#13
The best defense is a good offense....don't remeber who said it but it applies .
 
#15
frenchperson said:
ctauch said:
The best defense is a good offense....don't remeber who said it but it applies .


Was it Hitler?
Maybe, but what I am sure of whoever said it wasn't French
 
#17
Our dear American friend is somewhat confused! Still, it's par for the course, and indicative of a wider, national malaise. I exclude most cities and indeed, California from that generalisation
 
#18
Leaving aside the French-US handbag fighting (curious given that without the French the US would not exist) Chavez is on Washington's sh!t list as he suffers from a number of unacceptable flaws for someone who runs a country that provides oil to the US:

1. Does not unreservedly support US policy (trans. for US readers as hates freedom);
2. Shows signs of resenting US backed coups attempts against him (trans. for US readers as hates freedom);
3. Despite 1. and 2. elected to power (trans. for US readers as dictator);
4. Restored to power following coup by popular acclaim (trans. for US readers as must be a dictator).

He's got a damn sight more legitimacy than the regimes in Iraq and Afghanistan but because he's not bending over for GWB (unlike our own Dear Leader TCB) Washington wish he'd drop dead. I doubt they'd try much more to get rid of him because, frankly, the US aren't very good at that sort of thing any more. The pragmatists who understood how other countries worked seem to be being replaced by the ideologically pure and clueless.

Oh, and before I forget, Frenchperson, in my experience California's full of nutters, health nazis and killjoys. It felt more like the USSR than a civilised country. The red states are in my experience far more fun. The true tragedy is that they're full of decent people you'd enjoy having a beer with who support some truly stupid foreign policies through honest ignorance. No villains, just people.
 
#19
KGB_resident said:
CHAVEZ (THROUGH TRANSLATOR):I'm telling you that I have evidence that there are plans to invade Venezuela. Furthermore, we have documentation: how many bombers to overfly Venezuela on the day of the invasion, how many trans-Atlantic carriers, how many aircraft carriers need to be sent to ...
...
All on documentation. The plan is called Balboa, where Venezuela is indicated as an objective.
So - what's your point ?
 
#20
One_of_the_strange said:
Leaving aside the French-US handbag fighting (curious given that without the French the US would not exist)
And more recent history german would be spoken in France, had the US not returned the favor.

Chavez is on the sh!t list because he is pals with Castro a commie. The US has a long standing policy of not liking commies in our backyard :D
 

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