Theft inquiry launched as NHS seen as easy target

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  1. The last time I was in hospital someone had stolen all the cleaning supplies, the cleaners and all remnants of the English language. To be fair though they'd replaced those with bloodstained dressings, rusty surgical implements and an auxilary nurse from Manila who spent her entire shift eating the contents of her nose.
     
  2. Doctors going overseas at the same time that expensive equipment that only they could use goes missing!
    Smackheads throwing laptops at security guards. Theft is endemnic in the NHS and staff are guilty as well including Consultants who steal time from the NHS and use it in private practice.
     
  3. Theft of Sat Nav equipment from Ambulances is a problem, what the stupid chavs don't realise is they are bespoke systemsbuilt for the Ambulance Service, and work in conjunction with the comms, therefore a stolen unit is just a piece of unusable junk no use to anyone else (the sat nav part won't work) and with no re-sale value.

    Got no idea why they are still nicking them though as they were being stolen 6 years ago.

    If anyone sees one on e-bay ;)
     
  4. I was incarcerated in a Liverpool hospital last year for two nights in a 6 bed ward. The night staff were both contractors (or whatever they are called) and most of the night the ward wasn't manned. The ward had two doors, however, only one was open - the other was locked.

    Come 5/6 o'clock neither staff were present again and in comes a young lad, wanders round the ward, goes to the bed near me, moves away and tries the locked door.

    Muttering that he was looking for something he left - only to be apprehended by regular staff coming on shift. Told the regular staff "I'm looking for me Dad" and ran off. No-one thought any more about it until the guy near me looked for his watch and found it missing - along with his wallet, drugs and other things. The little scrote had pinched the lot. He was never apprehended.

    But what an appalling state - if the staff had been there it wouldn't have happened. What was worse, they were on shift the next night, too - the hospital had insufficient permanent staff and the contractor had no others available...and so they abandoned the ward on the second nights, too. Bastards!! I don't know where they go to - can only think

    And AND when my catheter was removed the male nurse forgot to let the air out of the bulb - By hell, it hurt. :(

    Hopefully I won't be going to that hospital again.
     
  5. This should be an interesting one as in the past I've spent weeks trying to get Ambulance service bosses to give one of their paramedics a couple of hours off so I could investigate a robbery which took place in a hospital car park, involving one of their staff.

    In the end it took a formal letter "from my people to their people" just to remind them that as much as they might not give a sh1t about NHS property going walkies the member of staff who was sparked out might have been just a bit peeved off by the whole thing.

    The lad who was named by a witness got off with it in court anyway :roll:
     
  6. So what do the 1.2 million people employed by this massive drain on the public finances do.
     
  7. You raise a serious issue.
    The NHS employs over a million people, and spends over £100 BILLION a year.
    Assume only 1% are bent, nicking what most accountants consider normal, say, 5% of waste due to fraud, theft and error.

    That's a minimum of 10,000 thieving scrotes, having £5 billion of taxpayers gear away a year. That includes theft from patients, misordering of stores, dodgy contracts, and prescription fraud on a huge scale, all the way up to Dr Shipman cheerfully offing his patients.

    Question- Who stops them?
    Answer- Practically no one. Some hospitals have some private security. Local plod deal with most issues, but the rest is in the hands of a tiny unit that hides within NHS Business services.
    http://www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/fraud

    When you think that MoD, the nuclear industry, the railways, and even, God help us, the Royal Parks have their own dedicated police services, it is clear that we desperately need some form of specialised police force dealing with this bloated empire.

    That might also take some of the stress off stretched local police forces who spend half their time up at A&E dealing with violent drunks anyway.
     
  8. No surprise really yet another example of weak useless financial and personnel mismanagement.
     
  9. hospitals have to be open to the public.
    mrs works on maternity staff room not secure or anything.

    What are the staff doing well they are working helping mothers cleaning making beds etc etc etc.
     
  10. I had to go into a hospital in London last week and it was security city, full of security guards in stab vests and there were cameras all over the shop, at the main entrance... The "smokers door" was propped open with no security on it.
     
  11. BiscuitsAB

    BiscuitsAB LE Moderator



    Either I'm walking into a WAH or you really are a nob!

    The standard NHS contract for consultants is 9PA's and yet of all the many consultants I know not one of them works only 9. A consultant cannot have a private list unless they work a minimum of 9PA's for the NHS. Outside of their contractual hours they are entitled to do what ever they want with their free time, whether that's working on the WLI or their own private lists. WLI by the way works only with the consent of the consultants and specialists in the NHS and its down to those people that your grandma doesnt have to wait 18mths for a hip replacement these days and bugger all to do with politicians.

    So if your going to spouts socialist rhetoric make sure of your facts first numpty.
     
  12. All that, but also a philosophical blind spot. Government (and it must be said, to some extent the public as well) seems to think that because someone chooses to work in healthcare, they become a cross between Mother Teresa and Bob Geldof, a self sacrificing, spotless character, who might make the odd blunder but has a heart of gold.

    It doesn't seem to occur to them that the NHS is run by people. People have weaknesses. Sometimes, like lions at a waterhole, the predators go where the prey is easy. Shipman. Allitt.

    As Sherlock Holmes says
    'When a doctor goes wrong, he is the first of criminals.'
     
  13. would'nt that be finiest of criminals Dr moriaty I presume :D

    when I worked with the homeless recovered a "machine that goes bleep" one of our residents had stolen from A&E :twisted:
    kunt was about to sling it down the stairs as strangley smack convertors would'nt give him any cash for it :roll:
    useless knut died of an od soon after good riddence.
    police not really intrested hospital not really interested tbf don't really have a recovering stolen bits of tech helpline.
    took it back A&E were quite pleased to see it back as a bit pricey
     
  14. To true and very well put,the fact that people are people was of course the fundamental problem with socialism, it never allowed for human nature.Of course the fact that basic human decency has disappeared from the nations psyche doesnt help either.