I'm aiming to try and do the Welsh 3000ers later this week (probably Thursday but the weather looks a bit pants). Experience says that it's a bit of a tall order to crack it in a single day, so I may just do the Snowdon to Ogwen Valley bit. Anyone want to join me (and a couple of the lads from work)?My provisional plan is to get dropped off at Pen y Pass and go up Snowdon the Crib Goch way - then do the route South-to-North. Not yet sure whether to stay overnight, since we'll be chinstrapped when we finish. I intend to go at a decent pace, purely cos it's a challenge rather than a leisurely day in the hills, however if we finish at Ogwen (the A5 near Tryfan) there should be plenty of time and we shouldn't need to rip the arrse out of it. Might try and get driver to do drop off and pick up while we sleep on the way back in the evening. Volunteers PM me and I'll update you further. Smithie - further to your PM - if you can get to a train station somewhere between the midlands and N wales then we could probably pick you up. A word of warning - BBC Weather says it's going to be a stinker!