The Victor

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Im not sure if this is the correct forum or not. I am looking for a copy of the Victor copy 119 june 1st 1963

The front page carries a story about how Fusilier Jefferson VC won his award at Monte Casino.
He was a relative of my grandad and would love to purchase a copy of it for myself. If anyone knows of anywhere online that deals in this I would be grateful. I have been keeping an eye on eBay and despite getting a few very close to this issue have sadly not spotted the correct one.
 

the_boy_syrup

LE
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#2
Have you thought of writing to the publishers?
In recent years they've been issuing the "Best of Victor" and the "Best of Alf Tupper"
They might have copies of the artwork in storage and let you have a copy of that particuler story.
 
#4
Have you thought of writing to the publishers?
In recent years they've been issuing the "Best of Victor" and the "Best of Alf Tupper"
They might have copies of the artwork in storage and let you have a copy of that particuler story.
Thanks a good suggestion there are copies (scans etc) online but I personally would jsut like an original if I could find one.
 
#6
Nerves of steel! Especially 20 yards from a dealer of death! How did PIATs compare to Panzerfausts (Tankfists)?
 
#9
No worries, the Victor was always my comic of choice.


For hiding my sisters Bunty in. :)
 

ugly

LE
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#11
I met a bloke from that Bn and involved in the action during the late 1970's. His opinion was that whilst the man deserved thoroughly all of the award, his mate stood behind him as he fired so he wouldn't fall and miss and got nothing for the deed. Fortunes of war indeed!
 
#12
I met a bloke from that Bn and involved in the action during the late 1970's. His opinion was that whilst the man deserved thoroughly all of the award, his mate stood behind him as he fired so he wouldn't fall and miss and got nothing for the deed. Fortunes of war indeed!
That is supported by this extract from the Lancashire Fusiliers website

"Following a chance meeting at the 2011 Blackpool veterans week with 3449543 Colour Sgt Pter Maher MM, who fought and was wounded with the 2nd Bn LFs in Italy, the following previously unrecorded fact became known:-

The PIAT Anti Tank weapon required a team of 2 to operate it, and there was always a slight disbelief that Jefferson VC could have managed his magnificent effort single handed.

Peter has now told us that there was indeed a team of two, and that the second man was Fusilier Sylvan Buckley MM
Fusilier Sylvan Buckley won the MM in 1940 at Dunkirk"
 
#13
Nerves of steel! Especially 20 yards from a dealer of death! How did PIATs compare to Panzerfausts (Tankfists)?
Generally not that well. The PIAT bomb was basically fine, nice 2lb-ish hollow charge, that would spoil the day of most tankies if it hit and detonated correctly. The "if" was the thing. It was basically a horizontally fired mortar. It didn't fire that far and it had a nasty habit of striking "glancing" blows, particularly on sloped armour.

However... It did have certain advantages. Zero backblast, comparatively small signature and the ability todeliver indirect fire (with HE or Phos bombs).
 
#14
Very well deserved just a sad shame his life after the war did not work out as I'm sure he had hoped.
If it's not an impertinent question Danny, what happened to Fus Jefferson post war?
 
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Generally not that well. The PIAT bomb was basically fine, nice 2lb-ish hollow charge, that would spoil the day of most tankies if it hit and detonated correctly. The "if" was the thing. It was basically a horizontally fired mortar. It didn't fire that far and it had a nasty habit of striking "glancing" blows, particularly on sloped armour.

However... It did have certain advantages. Zero backblast, comparatively small signature and the ability todeliver indirect fire (with HE or Phos bombs).

No worse than a rifle grenade?
 
#17
I used to hear tales of Fus Jefferson when I was a kid growing up in Lancashire.
Mind you the Panzers where Always 'Tigers'.
My old Dad also used to tell me how during the retreat to Dunkirk he was left with a Boyes anti tank rifle and told Two 'Tigers' are coming and you will take them out.
He waited three days then slung the "bolt" and joined the retreat or I would not be here.

john
 
#19
He struggled by all accounts and in 1982 his VC was stolen, not long after that he chose to end his life.
It is a very sad story, confirmed by the press cutting below from the Lancashire Fusiliers website.

But according to Iain Stewart's database the medal is now on display at the museum in Bury, and so presumably it was recovered at some point.

LANCASHIRE FUSILIERS MUSEUM
 

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