The United States will be officially designating Antifa a domestic terrorist organization

Oh yes - institutionalised racism in much of US law enforcement.
Any actual study to support that? I ask as about 1/3 of NYPD is minorities
As of 2010

NYPD
53% of NYPD Officers on the street are Black
57% of NYPD Detectives are Black


LAPD
48% Hispanic
9.62% Black


Chicago
21% Black
25% Hispanic

So these Black men and women are racist towards blacks based on what?
 

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The issue Heinlein was trying to address however was his concern, and the concern of others in the US, that the underclass would use their "unearned" right to vote to change the character of the US from that which he saw as being the "one true interpretation of the constitution" as laid down by the original writers of it.

IIRC thats been a concern of political philsophers for eons, long before US came into being. There is some apocryphal ancient saying (attributed to many sources) to the effect that "democracies last about 200 years, or until the electorate vote themselves access to the treasury".

Arguably that is exactly what has happened in western societies with the move to a universal vote franchise - the "underclass" have voted themselves lavish welfare systems, and continue to ratchet their countries deeper and deeper into socialism, with all political parties moving further and further to the Left in order to out-buy those "underclass" votes.

There is a valid argument that the last time Britain ran a sustainable, debt-free and growing economy was the era when voting was mainly limited to those who paid the taxes.
 
Any actual study to support that? I ask as about 1/3 of NYPD is minorities
As of 2010

NYPD
53% of NYPD Officers on the street are Black
57% of NYPD Detectives are Black


LAPD
48% Hispanic
9.62% Black


Chicago
21% Black
25% Hispanic

So these Black men and women are racist towards blacks based on what?
GB you are wasting your time. Many of our fellow forum members think the United States is Apartheid era South Africa and will not ever be swayed otherwise.
 
When Hollywood went to make a movie out of the book, they were faced with a bit of a dilemma. It was considered to be one of the classic science fiction novels, and so was expected to draw a good audience based on reputation alone, even of many of the viewers had never actually read the book. On the other hand, a straightforward translation of the book from novel to screen wouldn't sit well with much of the audience who had perhaps never actually read the book and that in turn might hurt ticket sales. The solution the movie makers took was to present the story as a parody. Hence the over the top plot and 1950s feel to it.
It was actually never originally intended to be a Starship Troopers adaptation.

Verhoeven started out with a script called Bug Hunt, which was meant as a parody of militarism. It wasn't until someone pointed out that their script was close enough to Heinlein's book that they risked being accused of plagiarism that they decided to buy the rights and shoehorn more material from the book into their film, which is what turned it into a cult classic.

Still not a patch on the book, mind.
 
IIRC thats been a concern of political philsophers for eons, long before US came into being. There is some apocryphal ancient saying (attributed to many sources) to the effect that "democracies last about 200 years, or until the electorate vote themselves access to the treasury".

Arguably that is exactly what has happened in western societies with the move to a universal vote franchise - the "underclass" have voted themselves lavish welfare systems, and continue to ratchet their countries deeper and deeper into socialism, with all political parties moving further and further to the Left in order to out-buy those "underclass" votes.

There is a valid argument that the last time Britain ran a sustainable, debt-free and growing economy was the era when voting was mainly limited to those who paid the taxes.
The quote is commonly ascribed to Alexander Fraser Tytler, Lord Woodhouselee, an 18th century Scottish lawyer, professor, judge, and writer. He made various statements generally disparaging of democracy from the perspective of both the rulers and the ruled.

However, the oldest record of the quote attributed to him relating to democracy falling when the underclass vote themselves largess apparently appears in the mid 20th century USA in two separate pieces by two different American writers. The two sources are then grafted together several decades later.

It is quite likely that this proverb is of comparatively recent American origin and reflects current American political thought about the welfare state.

 

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GB you are wasting your time. Many of our fellow forum members think the United States is Apartheid era South Africa and will not ever be swayed otherwise.
Much like some maggots think it's fine to hit an old man from behind eh?
 
It was actually never originally intended to be a Starship Troopers adaptation.

Verhoeven started out with a script called Bug Hunt, which was meant as a parody of militarism. It wasn't until someone pointed out that their script was close enough to Heinlein's book that they risked being accused of plagiarism that they decided to buy the rights and shoehorn more material from the book into their film, which is what turned it into a cult classic.

Still not a patch on the book, mind.
the bugs are an allegory for Communists.
 
Yes it was a riot.


Try not see the big picture for once, not just focus on the clips that make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
jeebus, but you have a low threshold for ‘riot’
I’ve seen more rowdiness outside a village pub on a Sunday afternoon.
 

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Liar, there was no riot where he was at all. He's not even in that clip. seeing an old man hit from behind might you make feel fuzzy, normal people are just revolted.
 
Liar, there was no riot where he was at all. He's not even in that clip. seeing an old man hit from behind might you make feel fuzzy, normal people are just revolted.
That is the same SWAT team... called out to deal with the riot in SLC. What you don't see in that 45 second clip is what is going on up the road...But older folks are not all law abiding citizens, age does not make one a saint.
 

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20 odd seconds in no riot in sight, just a ****** with an attitude pushing an old man over. The camera crew even use the past tense about the riot.
 
That is the same SWAT team... called out to deal with the riot in SLC. What you don't see in that 45 second clip is what is going on up the road...But older folks are not all law abiding citizens, age does not make one a saint.
did you see the old tip over the car and torch it?
 
So will anyone who belongs or does/has supported an Anyifa organization be denied a visa to visit USA. Think Tarquin and Daisy from Islington or Hampstead think it would be cool to have a visit to USA at some time, and don't get in.
 

20 odd seconds in no riot in sight, just a ****** with an attitude pushing an old man over. The camera crew even use the past tense about the riot.
You might want to say look at the 2:24 mark, which is clearly the same street that the oldster was occupying for whatever reason...Sight seeing I am sure...
 

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Here's something for you to 'bleat' about:

  • Police killed at least 104 unarmed black people in 2015, nearly twice each week.
  • Nearly 1 in 3 black people killed by police in 2015 were identified as unarmed, though the actual number is likely higher due to under-reporting
  • 36% of unarmed people killed by police were black in 2015 despite black people being only 13% of the U.S. population
  • Unarmed black people were killed at 5 x the rate of unarmed whites in 2015
  • Only 13 of the 104 cases in 2015 where an unarmed black person was killed by police resulted in officer(s) being charged with a crime. 4 of these cases have ended in a mistrial or charges against the officer(s) being dropped and 4 cases are still awaiting trial or have a trial underway. Only 4 cases (Matthew Ajibade, Eric Harris, Paterson Brown Jr., and William Chapman) have resulted in convictions of officers involved, with a fifth case (Walter Scott) resulting in the officer pleading guilty.
  • Of the 4 cases where the officer(s) involved have been convicted and sentenced, none were sentenced to serve more than 4 years in prison. Only 1 of 2 officers convicted for their involvement in Matthew Ajibade's death received jail time. He was sentenced to 1 year in jail and allowed to serve this time exclusively on weekends. The officer who killed Paterson Brown was sentenced to only 3 months in jail. Deputy Bates, who killed Eric Harris, was sentenced to 4 years in prison and Officer Cobb, who killed William Chapman, was sentenced to 2.5 years in prison. Officer Slager, who killed Walter Scott and pled guilty, has yet to be sentenced
I expect you think that police officer was just checking Floyd's carotid pulse with his knee for eight minutes to be sure of his health.
Where does it say that someone has to be armed before you kill them? Who "identified" them as unarmed? How do they ascertain that the number is "under reported", given that every single time this happens the entire world grinds to a halt?
 

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You might want to say look at the 2:24 mark, which is clearly the same street that the oldster was occupying for whatever reason...Sight seeing I am sure...
They formed AFTER billy bollocks hit him from behind. You can weasel and lie all you want, it was thuggery.
 

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