The UK/European migrant problem

As you know it is not a shortage of health care professionals that is the problem.
It is the excess of excessively paid and useless self serving managers that is.
As evidenced by @Crash's post above. None of those things he mentions would be happening if the managers responsible were competent and correct in their duties. It is this that's the true scandal, not any alleged lack of funds.
 
As evidenced by @Crash's post above. None of those things he mentions would be happening if the managers responsible were competent and correct in their duties. It is this that's the true scandal, not any alleged lack of funds.
I've seen QA managers try this game in manufacturing, they get corrected in very short time.
From the news they are protected or passed onto different jobs in the NHS.
This is why nationalising the trains etc. again will only make things worse, unfortunately.
 
Well . . . yes! But, don't let the facts get in the way of a good "poster" headline ;) !!

Note: it refers to the medics' journal "The Lancet".

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If it's on an image downloaded from the internet, it must be true. A quick search couldn't find it on their website.

How many of those migrants pay tax? I guess that you have no idea.

What is the total cost to the NHS of those migrants, and how does this compare to the average 'non-migrant'? I guess that you have no idea.

My missus is a migrant (from the US). She contributes significantly more to the NHS than she has ever taken out of it.
 
If it's on an image downloaded from the internet, it must be true. A quick search couldn't find it on their website.

How many of those migrants pay tax? I guess that you have no idea.

What is the total cost to the NHS of those migrants, and how does this compare to the average 'non-migrant'? I guess that you have no idea.

My missus is a migrant (from the US). She contributes significantly more to the NHS than she has ever taken out of it.
They're Schrondinger's migrants, they're all doctors, scientists and engineers, but somehow we have a desperate shortage of doctors in the UK despite them arriving by the millions
 
If it's on an image downloaded from the internet, it must be true. A quick search couldn't find it on their website.

How many of those migrants pay tax? I guess that you have no idea.

What is the total cost to the NHS of those migrants, and how does this compare to the average 'non-migrant'? I guess that you have no idea.

My missus is a migrant (from the US). She contributes significantly more to the NHS than she has ever taken out of it.[/QUOTE
Presumably your mrs pays tax, obeys our laws and doesn't want to change our way of life.
Therefore not the subject of this discussion.
When I worked 50% of the workforce were Polish, they are also not the subject of this discussion.
 
My missus is a migrant (from the US). She contributes significantly more to the NHS than she has ever taken out of it.
Did she cross the Atlantic in a dinghy? No?

I bet she applied for a visa and all the rest of the legalities. I bet she, or you, didn't give get an NHS number by subterfuge.

Do you have any proof that the millions of unregistered, illegal immigrants are paying tax? Given that the government has no idea how many are in the country they have no idea who's paying tax or not. And given the thousands who have been rounded up by agencies working illegally, and the thousands who come in who are released to 'report to a centre' but who never do, there's not a ******* scooby how many are working on the black economy.
 

Oxygen_Thief

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If it's on an image downloaded from the internet, it must be true. A quick search couldn't find it on their website.

How many of those migrants pay tax? I guess that you have no idea.

What is the total cost to the NHS of those migrants, and how does this compare to the average 'non-migrant'? I guess that you have no idea.

My missus is a migrant (from the US). She contributes significantly more to the NHS than she has ever taken out of it.
Ahh,your missus is contributing so all migrants do.

I see.
 
Nope. Unfortunately being neither Welsh or in the power industry my knowledge is limited to knowing it exists.
Basically they got a bunch of boffins in. They used stats, surveys, all that jazz. Half way through the drill down the the bore hole started cracking. So they did more scientific stuff.

Anyway, eventually as a long shot, they asked an old boy in. He'd worked the mountain for years. H came up, had a look and used his years of common sense and acclimatisation to the area to change the drilling a bit.

Lo. No more shattering of slate.

Sometimes you don't need big long scientific processes to know what to do to fix something.
 
Did she cross the Atlantic in a dinghy? No?

I bet she applied for a visa and all the rest of the legalities. I bet she, or you, didn't give get an NHS number by subterfuge.

Do you have any proof that the millions of unregistered, illegal immigrants are paying tax? Given that the government has no idea how many are in the country they have no idea who's paying tax or not. And given the thousands who have been rounded up by agencies working illegally, and the thousands who come in who are released to 'report to a centre' but who never do, there's not a ******* scooby how many are working on the black economy.
Where does it say that the migrants allegedly reffereded to in the Lancet are illegal?
 
Not what I said, was it? Are you able to offer an answer as to how many of those migrants registering with GPs were illegal?
Are you able to prove any of them are legal?
 

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Did she cross the Atlantic in a dinghy? No?

I bet she applied for a visa and all the rest of the legalities. I bet she, or you, didn't give get an NHS number by subterfuge.

Do you have any proof that the millions of unregistered, illegal immigrants are paying tax? Given that the government has no idea how many are in the country they have no idea who's paying tax or not. And given the thousands who have been rounded up by agencies working illegally, and the thousands who come in who are released to 'report to a centre' but who never do, there's not a ******* scooby how many are working on the black economy.
Racist!
 
As a minimum, one. I've got a photo of my girlfriend's passport with her ILR (As well as her British one).
Well done you. So there's one legal out of 6.5 million.

Keep trying.
 

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