The UK/European migrant problem

syrup

LE
Care4Calais are having a synchronized mince @ Downing St tomorrow and are likely to be met by some opposition.
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Now I'm no expert in things nautical but I'm willing to take a bet that there is less chance of people drowning in the English Channel if they don't get on small boats in rough seas
Perhaps care 4 Calais should do just that and care for them in Calais and tell them not to make illegal crossings
 
Now I'm no expert in things nautical but I'm willing to take a bet that there is less chance of people drowning in the English Channel if they don't get on small boats in rough seas
Perhaps care 4 Calais should do just that and care for them in Calais and tell them not to make illegal crossings
They wouldn't get enough likes on social media for that, and let's face it they are a major driving force for such types who have generally failed at most things in life.
 
Bang on. Also, France is also dealing with the detritus from all the French speaking african countries who don't want to go any further north than Paris. Thousands of them. Considerably more than those who want to get to the UK. Here, we set up direct provision centres and you can expect 10 yrs in one on 19 eu per week. It tends to turn off the economic migrants.

Colour Sergeant Bourne Walt. ;)
 

Mbongwe

Old-Salt
Time for ID cards?
Pointless, the crims would just wouldn't carry them or would use false ones and worry about the consequences when caught.

HM Government went through that farrago 15 years ago, and the National Identity Scheme (as it was known) collapsed because 1) The banking sector wouldn't support a card that wasn't innately linked to the holder's postal address; 2) The general public didn't understand the terminology (e.g. biometrics) and the proposed benefits of the card and the wider Scheme.
 

ancienturion

LE
Book Reviewer
Surely some pre-planning behind this incident? That's some argument over a train ticket.

Rather funny the way certain people of particular creeds or colour decided to disappear when the police really moved on them.
If only the police in UK were to act so positively.
 

ancienturion

LE
Book Reviewer
Well, one of the charities left that I did believe in has decided that I'm some form of racist.
However I'm sure the Salvation Army will get by without my offerings.
 
I'm in the process of buying a small RIB + outboard for use as a tender at the moment, and it's probably going to cost me just short of £2000. When I see one of these things:
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I wonder who's selling them? What is the legitimate purpose of something like that?
Now, If I was a Franjche Detectif, I think I would have the means to find out. I would also like to know whether the peoples on them are carrying any berms.
 

endure

GCM
Pointless, the crims would just wouldn't carry them or would use false ones and worry about the consequences when caught.

HM Government went through that farrago 15 years ago, and the National Identity Scheme (as it was known) collapsed because 1) The banking sector wouldn't support a card that wasn't innately linked to the holder's postal address; 2) The general public didn't understand the terminology (e.g. biometrics) and the proposed benefits of the card and the wider Scheme.
The major problem was that HMG wanted to connect the ID card to a massive database that not only confirmed your identity but held details of your whole life.
 

Mbongwe

Old-Salt
I'm in the process of buying a small RIB + outboard for use as a tender at the moment, and it's probably going to cost me just short of £2000. When I see one of these things:
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I wonder who's selling them? What is the legitimate purpose of something like that?
Now, If I was a Franjche Detectif, I think I would have the means to find out. I would also like to know whether the peoples on them are carrying any berms.
A caller on LBC said that the traffickers buy RIBs from Ebay.
 

Mbongwe

Old-Salt
The major problem was that HMG wanted to connect the ID card to a massive database that not only confirmed your identity but held details of your whole life.
From the public's point of view the National Identity Register may have been the major problem, but what made it unfeasible from HMG's perspective was that the banks wouldn't support it unless it was linked to the cardholder's postal address (unlike a passport).

HMG wanted a passport-type arrangement with no need to constantly update one's address for the card to be valid. Through this divergence of opinion HMG lost its biggest lobbying partner.
 
Care4Calais are having a synchronized mince @ Downing St tomorrow and are likely to be met by some opposition.
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Is the whore from this pro-terrorist front going to pay for these parasites?. Nope?, then go and do one.
 
I'm in the process of buying a small RIB + outboard for use as a tender at the moment, and it's probably going to cost me just short of £2000. When I see one of these things:
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I wonder who's selling them? What is the legitimate purpose of something like that?
Now, If I was a Franjche Detectif, I think I would have the means to find out. I would also like to know whether the peoples on them are carrying any berms.
Custom order from China? Home-made? nothing retail, I'l be bound
 
Time for ID cards?

Time for a robust removal policy. With massive punishments for those harbouring or employing these illegals, which will include massive asset seizures.

And a reward programme for those dobbing these illegals in.
 
Time for ID cards?
Without the will (and obviously unlimited overtime) to do Police controls and checks on them, they are just another bit of plastic.
If they had even bothered to obtain them somehow in the first place.
Look how woke things have gone now, you are not allowed to DNA a chancer to see where he is from, you are not allowed to get a dentist to check his teeth and establish his rough age when he says he is 15.
And yet he is obviously not.

Just look at what a state the UK has evolved into in only a few short years.
It is going to take a small dirty bomb going off, triggered by a recent arrival, outside the Palace of Westminster on the day of Christmas recess before any meaningful direction will be given in dealing with this.

Time for actual and meaningful enforcement and deportation by the Immigration Authorities, and not just talking about it after all these years.
 
No, it was because a huge bulk of the Jewish population were deported to babylonia, the ones that didn't go were from the northern areas, north of Judea, up to Galillee. This lot carried on a form of Judaism as best they could, but it diverged from the 'real thing' that was safeguarded by the exiled population. The samaritans had no access to a jerusalem based temple system, so their practices diverged a great deal from trading Jewish practices, and the religion was diluted, corrupted etc. When the babylonian exiles returned to Judea, the Jewish heartland, they rebuilt the temple and got things going again, they always looked down on the Samaritans, and regarded them unworthy of respect, not real Jews etc.
Indeed, JC himself wasn't a great fan of the Samaritans.

 
Without the will (and obviously unlimited overtime) to do Police controls and checks on them, they are just another bit of plastic.
If they had even bothered to obtain them somehow in the first place.
Look how woke things have gone now, you are not allowed to DNA a chancer to see where he is from, you are not allowed to get a dentist to check his teeth and establish his rough age when he says he is 15.
And yet he is obviously not.

Just look at what a state the UK has evolved into in only a few short years.
It is going to take a small dirty bomb going off, triggered by a recent arrival, outside the Palace of Westminster on the day of Christmas recess before any meaningful direction will be given in dealing with this.

Time for actual and meaningful enforcement and deportation by the Immigration Authorities, and not just talking about it after all these years.

As I've said on here more than once, the day is fast approaching when Britain and other Western countries are going to have to make hard decisions, and follow through 100% with them, if the West is to survive in it's present form.

The current British government, led by a public-school hooray-Henry who does not know the truth from blatant lie is patently unfit tor purpose. The situation goes from bad to worse every day.

This immigration is likely to be being pushed by dark shadowy and sinister forces with the aim of destroying the West. The terrorist patsies like Care4Calais and the Socialist Worker's party are but two of the public faces of this, but the likes of Gates and Soros, both supporters of a no-borders world are more than likely to be providing finance to this.

These shadowy entities need to be be smoked out by the security services, and eliminated.

At the same time, the traitors in this country need to be dealt with.

The alternative is anarchy leading to Communism, or an Islamic Republic.
 
That's very lenient when you consider that that was arguably attempted murder. The perpetrator clearly accepted that anyone hit by a plant pot that size would suffer severe if not fatal injuries.

In the day, he would have been killed " resisting arrest".

Maybe those days need to return?.
 
Now I'm no expert in things nautical but I'm willing to take a bet that there is less chance of people drowning in the English Channel if they don't get on small boats in rough seas
Perhaps care 4 Calais should do just that and care for them in Calais and tell them not to make illegal crossings

The agenda is to bring them all here to destroy this country. Care4Calais and other terrorist supporting entities of the same nature need to be proscribed.
 

shamrock

Old-Salt
hypothetical question. If someone had a medium size legal boat and went into the channel and discovered a RIB , then threw them a line and secured them. Then sailed to the French coast with RIB in tow and beached these poor souls.
1 would the French navy interfere with your rescue
2 would HMG/ RNLI interfere with your rescue
You and chums have saved the lifes of many people. But govt. agencies may try and arrest you. What would the charge be? Would they get the rescued boat back into the channel and prove whats really going on?
An idea to bring a video camera to document the event. Both to show the world that govts are importing people. And also for your defence in court when you get nicked for rescuing people
 
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