The UK/European migrant problem

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The powerful new Tory WhatsApp group pushing Red Wall interests.

Boris needs to get a grip of this issue or he is going to loose his Red Wall voters pretty quick. And with it his majority. According to this article its the number one issue with these voters. Nigel Farage said the same on his show this evening. Overall in the country it comes third after Covid and the economy.

Also on the Farage show was a report that a French boat was trying to turn back an inflatable with five illegals in it. They all jumped in the sea and refused to get in the French boat and a BF cutter and the RNLI had to come and fish them out and take them to Dover.

Priti gets the blame but you can replace her with any other hardline politician and you will still have the same problem unless the French agree to take them back and we pull out or derogate from the ECHR and the 1951 UN Convention.
 

Stan_Deesey

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Boris needs to get a grip of this issue or he is going to loose his Red Wall voters pretty quick. And with it his majority. According to this article its the number one issue with these voters. Nigel Farage said the same on his show this evening. Overall in the country it comes third after Covid and the economy.


Priti gets the blame but you can replace her with any other hardline politician and you will still have the same problem unless the French agree to take them back and we pull out or derogate from the ECHR and the 1951 UN Convention.

There´s no chance of any of those things happpening. You´re right about any other hardline politician though. Even if Farage was in charge he´d still be subject to the same rules.

At PMQs on Wednesday Boris had the audacity to claim that the Tories are controlling immigration. What a c**t!
 
There´s no chance of any of those things happpening. You´re right about any other hardline politician though. Even if Farage was in charge he´d still be subject to the same rules.

At PMQs on Wednesday Boris had the audacity to claim that the Tories are controlling immigration. What a c**t!

On SKY NEWS this morning, they offered stats that reckon over-stayed visas contribute more than 6 times the number of illegal migrants than anyone trying to smuggle themselves into the UK.

E2A: Record migrants cross Channel but numbers are dwarfed by unauthorised people in UK
 
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Stan_Deesey

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France warn efforts to stop migrants crossing Channel could be scuppered after Britain’s submarine deal with Australia​


 

France warn efforts to stop migrants crossing Channel could be scuppered after Britain’s submarine deal with Australia​



It's time to say French trawlers could suddenly find themselves scuppered, if France doesn't put more effort into stopping migrants crossing
 

PFGEN

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Also on the Farage show was a report that a French boat was trying to turn back an inflatable with five illegals in it. They all jumped in the sea and refused to get in the French boat and a BF cutter and the RNLI had to come and fish them out and take them to Dover.

That could be stopped with a bit of creativity. Agree with the French to have the RN pick up a couple of rubber boat loads and bring them to a French harbour. Said boat being in a good will visit to our allies. Once word gets out they won't be so keen to jump in the channel.
 
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France warn efforts to stop migrants crossing Channel could be scuppered after Britain’s submarine deal with Australia​


Thats no problem because they haven't put any effort into stopping them anyway. They have actively encouraged and assisted them.
 

Stan_Deesey

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Thats no problem because they haven't put any effort into stopping them anyway. They have actively encouraged and assisted them.

That´s part of the deal they have with the UK though. They don´t stop migrants in the water who are heading north, unless those migrants get into difficulties, or request help. There was a link to a video on this thread that contained an interview with a Gendarmerie vessel skipper. France has no remit to stop migrants leaving it´s shores once they´re on the sea.

There was an article in The Guardian a few weeks ago about migrants trying to cross the channel by lorry. There was an interview with one who had been in a boat that was turned around at sea by a French patrol vessel, so he had given up trying to get to the UK by boat, and was in Calais trying to sneak himself onboard a lorry.

So the French have stopped a few, but expect them to stop even fewer now that they´ve got a sad-on over the Australian submarine deal.
 
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