The UK/European migrant problem

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PhotEx

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Just shows how inept BF are...


Not inept Steve, just not really interested in trying to do Preeti Useless's latest turning back weeze.

Whats that? Any BF Officer who caused a capsize would be criminally liable for any injury or fatality that ensued? Unpossible!
 

Joker62

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Not inept Steve, just not really interested in trying to do Preeti Useless's latest turning back weeze.

Whats that? Any BF Officer who caused a capsize would be criminally liable for any injury or fatality that ensued? Unpossible!
What's your solution then, Seamus?
 

Stan_Deesey

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Clearly they are not

Or there would not be over a 1000 a week escaping France for the UK.

The figures I´ve seen on this thread are only for migrants arriving by boat. They don´t include the migrants arriving by truck. There are still migrants in the Calais area trying to hop on lorries.
They haven´t gone away you know.
 

Joker62

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The figures I´ve seen on this thread are only for migrants arriving by boat. They don´t include the migrants arriving by truck. There are still migrants in the Calais area trying to hop on lorries.
They haven´t gone away you know.

Indeed

You will see that on this thread I have also mentioned

1. Sangatte going back to the 90's

2. The lorry loads have taken a back seat to the boat loads in news reports.

That is potentially 2 cities the size of Manchester of Illegal Immigrants cutting about the UK
 
Not inept Steve, just not really interested in trying to do Preeti Useless's latest turning back weeze.

Whats that? Any BF Officer who caused a capsize would be criminally liable for any injury or fatality that ensued? Unpossible!
if an officer of Roads policing, carries out an authorised manoeuvre in order to stop a suspect vehicle, as long as he is trained to do so, carries it out correctly and is using a sanctioned vehicle then if injury is sustained by the driver (or rider in the case of motorbikes) then it is doubtful he would be criminally liable - this is because reasonable steps have been taken to prevent injury.

It will be the same in the channel - if you are using a valid technique and Abdul launches himself into the briney then if he had a coat full of Stans‘ patented pocket rocks then it ain’t the fault of the BF bloke if Abdul drowns.

Same as yellow card - if you have reasonable belief and follow the guidance then you are within the law.
 
More detail . . . . you could NOT make-up this . . . ;) !!

Well, err, that’s nice.

He showed a portion of an experiment that didn’t work - or possibly they cocked the drill up and it didn’t work, or they were seeing what would happen if…?

As in when you see footage of a police officer beating the snot out of a 15 year old kid or a woman - they usually edit out the bit where a knife was drawn on the copper.

Of course BF could just go out on day one, make it up as they go along on a live target and cock it up. I am sure even in the RCT you had exercises where you practiced doing things, which were based on experience or following guidance thought up by people how had done a few trial runs on things - yeah?
 

endure

GCM
Well, err, that’s nice.

He showed a portion of an experiment that didn’t work - or possibly they cocked the drill up and it didn’t work, or they were seeing what would happen if…?

As in when you see footage of a police officer beating the snot out of a 15 year old kid or a woman - they usually edit out the bit where a knife was drawn on the copper.

Of course BF could just go out on day one, make it up as they go along on a live target and cock it up. I am sure even in the RCT you had exercises where you practiced doing things, which were based on experience or following guidance thought up by people how had done a few trial runs on things - yeah?

The minute that BF put anyone in danger on that dinghy they are bound by SOLAS to rescue them.
 
A migrant camp has been dismantled for the third time since June in Calais today.

In June, there were about 500 migrants, mostly from Sudan and Iran.

In July, there were 130 ; today, 86, among them 4 women and 10 children. They were relocated to various shelters in the region.

Local NGOs say that the migrants will return in the coming days to try and cross the Channel anyway.

The local Gendarmerie says the smugglers have adapted their TTPs to limit the window of vulnerability of the migrants.

The smuggling boats now come directly from the sea to a pick up point where migrants are hidding.

The migrants only go on to the open beach when ordered and board the boat which then speeds off towards open sea quickly.

It removes the period when migrants have to inflate the boats and drag them on the beach which is when many are spotted and equipment seized. Unless the security forces have good Intel, it’s all done before they can intervene on land.
 

Stan_Deesey

Old-Salt
A migrant camp has been dismantled for the third time since June in Calais today.

In June, there were about 500 migrants, mostly from Sudan and Iran.

In July, there were 130 ; today, 86, among them 4 women and 10 children. They were relocated to various shelters in the region.

Local NGOs say that the migrants will return in the coming days to try and cross the Channel anyway.

The local Gendarmerie says the smugglers have adapted their TTPs to limit the window of vulnerability of the migrants.

The smuggling boats now come directly from the sea to a pick up point where migrants are hidding.

The migrants only go on to the open beach when ordered and board the boat which then speeds off towards open sea quickly.


It removes the period when migrants have to inflate the boats and drag them on the beach which is when many are spotted and equipment seized. Unless the security forces have good Intel, it’s all done before they can intervene on land.

Any more information? Any idea as to who would be driving the boat?: One of the people smugglers or an immigrant that they´ve trained up?

If a smuggler lands the boat on the open beach, then does he jump out and hand over control to one of the immigrants?

I was under the impression that the smugglers don´t get into the boats as they don´t want to risk getting caught. They don´t even risk getting their feet wet. They only procure boats, and arrange passages for asylum seekers.
 
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PhotEx

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The minute that BF put anyone in danger on that dinghy they are bound by SOLAS to rescue them.

And SOLAS trumps everything.

And anyone with a Martime ticket will NOT want to get it recinded and out themselves permanently ashore.

Photex! Put those people in that dinghy in peril!
No Sir

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