The Truth on the British Army (You all know its true)

#1
Right...i could probably get in trouble for this if it ever found its way into my bosses hands due to the fact ive had a number of warnings about spreading descent amongst the junior privates/signallers. I even got accused of "recruiting" young soldiers to my cause of hating the army, jesus do they think im trying to start a rebel army or something.

ok where do i ******* start. Overweight people? Arse Kissers? Females? Thieves? i know ill start from the top. Now this is not a rant about overweight people because people have a right to be how they want to be but in the army they have a moral obligation to stay fit for duty but it seems that doesnt happen, overweight people prosper while others fall by the wayside. The Basic Personal Fitness Assesment recently renamed the Personal Fitness Test consists of being able to achieve 44 pressups in 2 minutes, 50 sit ups in 2 minutes and a mile and a half run in 1030 for males. Now this is not hard or should not be hard for trained soldiers but people fail regularly. Some people lower themselves to feigning injury to avoid the testss some people have been on the "sick" for years and yet even though they are classed as unfit for duty they prosper being promoted while people who can pass stand and watch. The RPs (regimental police) at my barracks are all too unfit to pass a personal fitness test and are still given the authority of police which they abuse regularly. i dont mind getting a good shouting at or marched around as a punishment but to be punished by somebody who themselves cant even pass a BASIC fitness test is the most degrading thing that can happen to a soldier. These soldiers unfit for duty are not encouraged to get themselves fit because tax payers money pays for their physiotherapy when they become too heavy that their own knees cant support them and give way, they are promoted even though they can not carry out their jobs. It is a horrendous problem and will not get better anytime soon.

Arse kissers, now they are people not fit to lick the shit of my boots. they lower themselves to grassing up mates in order to improve their careers. im sure every workplace has them, they are what we all know as gobshite.

Females, now dont get me wrong i have no problem with females in the army and some are good mates but if they are taking home the same pay as us they should not be abusing the fact that they are female and all it takes from them is tears, eye lashes flashed or a large cleavege to get out of jobs while the lads get shit on to cover their arses too. SNCO, seargents and above regularly abuse their position of authority to get a female into the sack and the girls go for it thinking it will grant them immunity from shit jobs again leaving us lads with them.

Thieves, oh my god, there is no loyalty amongst theives. apparently there is also no loyalty between soldiers anymore. sub human scum, they steal from their comrades at first opertunity without remorse. Due to stricter rules than earlier armys we cant even give these scumbags a good kicking like we used to.

Bullies, yes it still happens in the army, people are regularly bullied by people inferior to themselves but who have the nerve to think them above everyone. i recently was punished for giving one such bully the kicking of his life, he got away scot free. its not my right to take the law into my own hands but you reap what you sow in my world and i wont stand by and let filth bully people.

immaturaty. The army is full of immature soldiers who have not lived outside of school or the army where they are sheltered from the real world. You often find that its the lads who were bought up in broken homes that are the most mature, they have been through life and have earned my respect and im fed up with immature little shits gobbing off with no respect for others. This is what results in squaddies having a bad reputation because of the way they treat people in the towns they visit. I am sometimes ashamed to admit to my job.

Dont get me wrong, i love the army and the opertunities it has given me to broaden my horizens but things have reached such a sad state of affairs when soldiers who love the army and have never commited any of the offences stated above are reduced to leaving like myself
 
#4
so yove been passed up for promotion for being to gobby,cant handle it and youve signed off after 2 years..mmmm-carear soldier you aint...
 
#5
Tell us something we haven't heard already, its every squaddies god given right to moan but at least try and moan about something new on here.
 
#6
It's a reflection of society. If you've left the Army, you'll soon recognise it everywhere. That's what's so fcuking depressing. Did I mention the glass was half empty today?
 
#7
Some things in life are bad
They can really make you mad
Other things just make you swear and curse.
When you're chewing on life's gristle
Don't grumble, give a whistle
And this'll help things turn out for the best...

And...always look on the bright side of life...
Always look on the light side of life...

If life seems jolly rotten
There's something you've forgotten
And that's to laugh and smile and dance and sing.
When you're feeling in the dumps
Don't be silly chumps
Just purse your lips and whistle - that's the thing.

And...always look on the bright side of life...
Always look on the light side of life...

For life is quite absurd
And death's the final word
You must always face the curtain with a bow.
Forget about your sin - give the audience a grin
Enjoy it - it's your last chance anyhow.

So always look on the bright side of death
Just before you draw your terminal breath

Life's a piece of shit
When you look at it
Life's a laugh and death's a joke, it's true.
You'll see it's all a show
Keep 'em laughing as you go
Just remember that the last laugh is on you.

And always look on the bright side of life...
Always look on the right side of life...
(Come on guys, cheer up!)
Always look on the bright side of life...
Always look on the bright side of life...
(Worse things happen at sea, you know.)
Always look on the bright side of life...
(I mean - what have you got to lose?)
(You know, you come from nothing - you're going back to nothing.
What have you lost? Nothing!)
Always look on the right side of life...
 

B_AND_T

LE
Book Reviewer
#8
And how is your application for the Diplomatic Corps coming on?
 
#9
milsum said:
It's a reflection of society. If you've left the Army, you'll soon recognise it everywhere. That's what's so fcuking depressing. Did I mention the glass was half empty today?
You've got a glass - you lucky beerstead
 
#10
mmmm interesting.
I'll play.

Overweight - I am overweight and 50+ and I CAN STILL DO THE CFT. Being overweight is not the prob, it is being unfit. The problem is like civvy street, the yobs know the jails are full, so they commit crime knowing that they cant pay the fine, wont go to jail, so get more and more asbos. The armed forces cannot afford to lose any more personnel so standards drop. Perhaps if pay was linked to fitness ...................
Wimmin - A bit unfair but I have seen the same as well. Equally there are some men who are exactly the same. Believe me, when you get a useless female OC, then start worrying.
Thieves - thats wot AGAI67 is for and postings to Catterick.
Bullies - report them, no place anywhere in the services

Get some tin foil in your beret, smartish
 
#11
BoskovicRegime said:
Right...i could probably get in trouble for this if it ever found its way into my bosses hands due to the fact ive had a number of warnings about spreading descent amongst the junior privates/signallers. I even got accused of "recruiting" young soldiers to my cause of hating the army, jesus do they think im trying to start a rebel army or something.

ok where do i * start. Overweight people? Arse Kissers? Females? Thieves? ...
Sorry, read this far in your post and then lost the will to live. Did you say anything interesting in it? If you love the Army then stay in and work to make it better (if only in a small way). If you hate it then get out and good luck to you. Ranting posts on ARRSE won't achieve either of thee things...

B-T
 
#13
i recently was punished for giving one such bully the kicking of his life, he got away scot free. its not my right to take the law into my own hands but you reap what you sow in my world and i wont stand by and let filth bully people.


So it's not their right to steal, bully, abuse (rank or gender). And you're correct, it's not your right to take the law into your own hands. So where do people who cause physical harm to others instead of using the army discipline system fall into your arguement.

You're no better than any of the groups you mentioned in your post.
 
#15
BoskovicRegime said:
Dont get me wrong, i love the army and the opertunities it has given me to broaden my horizens but things have reached such a sad state of affairs when soldiers who love the army and have never commited any of the offences stated above are reduced to leaving like myself
...........

because you don't have the strength of character, ability, will or even the common decency to stick it out and try and do your bit to improve it.

Feck off, loser.
 
#16
BoskovicRegime said:
Some people lower themselves to feigning injury to avoid the testss some people have been on the "sick" for years and yet even though they are classed as unfit for duty they prosper being promoted while people who can pass stand and watch.

Right, you´ve really got me riled now. I was one of those people who was medically downgraded due to a back injury. I DID go on Exercises, I DID deploy and I certainly DIDN`T get promoted, even though my CR´s recommended it. The way it was then, was that if you weren´t fit enough to pass your detties you didn´t get promoted full stop. I knew that and so did everybody else.

The difference between you and me is that I really enjoyed my time in the Army and with the Corps especially. I however, got out BEFORE I became bitter and twisted. I think you´ve missed that particular boat and should have a severe soul searching session whether you really want to stay in the Army. If you don´t, sign off. If you do, then as big-timer said: "If you love the Army then stay in and work to make it better (if only in a small way)"

With regards to thieves and bullies: You can´t just take them round the back and kick the shit out them. Those were the good/bad old days (depending on which generation of soldier). Whilst I agree with your sentiments to a certain degree, the system has changed these days whether you like it or not, so make the system work for you !!
 

Alsacien

LE
Moderator
#17
Actually he has a point - just badly made.

What we are talking about is the perception of "fairness" - which seems to have been on a downhill track for a number of years, outwieghed by political correctness, directives, budget, recruiting and god knows how many other factors given higher importance.

Recall and good guys that you looked up to as excellent soldiers/tradesmen who inexplicably signed off? Guys who had the nous and ability to do better on the outside than with the opportunities offered on the inside?

Its about retaining the quality people, people with attributes that are going to make things work for them whatever their career choice.
One attribute that is applicable to most who choose a military career is subscription to a concept of right and wrong - generally perceived as "fairness".
 
#19
BoskovicRegime said:
Right...i could probably get in trouble for this if it ever found its way into my bosses hands due to the fact ive had a number of warnings about spreading descent amongst the junior privates/signallers.


ok where do i * start. Overweight people passengers


Arse kissers, now they are people not fit Arse kissers


Females, Women


Thieves, oh my god, there is no loyalty Thieving bastards

Bullies, yes it still happens in the army,bullies

immaturaty. The army is full of immature soldiers fcukwits


Dont get me wrong, i love the army and the opertunities it has given me to broaden my horizens but things have reached such a sad state of affairs when soldiers who love the ...............snip drivel

Good situation assessment.
Strangely, equally applicable to the '80s, when I was about, as it is now. Probably equally applicable to the 1880s.

It hasn't reached that state recently, it's been like that since armies were first recruited.

What, are there really soldiers who are as thick as two short ones, big and spent their school days bullying little kids out of their dinner money in the playground instead of studying? No, you're mistaken, that type are all chartered accountants.

That's what is wrong with it, and every other army since Caesar was the OC. Having worked that out for yourself, get your records in order, get some rank up and sort it out locally, so far as you can.

Failing that, as advised by others, fcuk off somewhere else.
 
#20
dextrose said:
Bravo2nothing said:
Get a fucking grip you big hommo.

If you don't like it, fuck off.
I'll Second that motion :numberone:
That motion has my vote.

Stop whinging you cunt. If you are so down on the army, fuck off and see if it's any better in civvy life.
 

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