The Trump Presidency...

What is the obvious inference?

I fear you’re seeing what you want to see

If Cohen is accused of conspiring with Trump to make illegal payments from campaign funds to silence a kiss and tell story, and the tape evidence will not hurt Cohen, than surely that means that it clears BOTH of them?
Some orange buffoon talking to you about buying off a tart does not mean you want to talk about buying off a tart.
 
Despite labrat trying to throw a fake news spin on it.. It just doesn't seem to go the way Donny Disaster wants it to go does it ?
Lawmakers reject Trump claim that records confirm misconduct
Politics Jul 22, 2018 12:29 PM EDT
BRIDGEWATER, N.J. — President Donald Trump claimed Sunday that newly released documents relating to the wiretapping of his onetime campaign adviser Carter Page “confirm with little doubt” that intelligence agencies misled the courts that approved the warrant. But lawmakers from both parties say the documents don’t show wrongdoing.

″They did not spy on the campaign from anything and everything that I have seen. You have an individual here who has openly bragged about his ties to Russia and Russians.” – Sen. Marco Rubio

The documents have been at the center of a political firestorm for months, as some Republicans have suggested that the FBI misrepresented evidence to obtain warrants to monitor Page as they investigated possible collusion between the Russian government and a Trump aide. The documents had remained out of public view until Saturday, when they were released under the Freedom of Information Act.

Visible portions of the heavily redacted documents show the FBI telling the court that Page “has been collaborating and conspiring with the Russian government.” The agency also told the court that “the FBI believes Page has been the subject of targeted recruitment by the Russian government.”

The documents were part of officials’ application for a warrant to the secretive foreign intelligence surveillance court, which signed off on surveilling Page.

Trump tweeted Sunday on the documents: “As usual they are ridiculously heavily redacted but confirm with little doubt that the Department of ‘Justice’ and FBI misled the courts. Witch Hunt Rigged, a Scam!”

Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff of California, a ranking member on the House Intelligence Committee, said the documents lay out in detail “just why the FBI was so concerned that Carter Page might be acting as an agent of a foreign power.”

“It was a solid application and renewals signed by four different judges appointed by three different Republican presidents,” Schiff said on ABC’s “This Week.”

Republican Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida also broke with Trump, saying he didn’t think the FBI did anything wrong in obtaining warrants against Page.

“I have a different view on this issue than the president and the White House,” Rubio said Sunday on CBS’ “Face the Nation.” ″They did not spy on the campaign from anything and everything that I have seen. You have an individual here who has openly bragged about his ties to Russia and Russians.”

Page has denied being an agent of Russia, which he repeated Sunday to CNN, saying, “No. I’ve never been the agent of a foreign power.”

In a 2013 letter, Page described himself as an “informal adviser’ to the Kremlin but now he told CNN “it’s really spin” to call him an adviser.
 
What is the obvious inference?

I fear you’re seeing what you want to see

If Cohen is accused of conspiring with Trump to make illegal payments from campaign funds to silence a kiss and tell story, and the tape evidence will not hurt Cohen, than surely that means that it clears BOTH of them?
Judging by Trumps Tweets I'd suggest he doesn't think he's in the clear.
 
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The FBI had ample reason to believe that Carter Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power based on his history, including the fact that he had previously been a target of Russian recruitment, his travel to Russia, and other information. The renewals of the FISA were also appropriate and based on new information obtained by law enforcement.
Wait a minute, the proof that he is vulnerable to Russian recruitment is the fact that you previously used him as an undercover FBI agent to catch Russian spies when they tried to recruit him?

Can you not see the circularity of that argument?

 
Wait a minute, the proof that he is vulnerable to Russian recruitment is the fact that you previously used him as an undercover FBI agent to catch Russian spies when they tried to recruit him?

Can you not see the circularity of that argument?

To catch a RAT you watch the RAT !!

I think it was a top notch idea to be honest and let's not forget the other Indictments shall we ? Even if you take Carter Page out of the picture there are an amazing amount of connections from the Trump campaign to the Russians. Connections that you, Fox News, nor anyone else can spin their way out of.

The Truppits contention is that the FBI was rigged to enable Hilary to get elected, Trump DID get elected !
Can you not see the circularity of that argument?
 
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Wasn't sure whether to post this here, or in the 'America, it's a bit odd' thread. The USA is doomed, doomed I say!

'It’s been a disastrous week for Donald Trump, whose widely denounced behaviour with Vladimir Putin in Helsinki led to some monumental flip-flopping over his stance on Russia.

'But the former reality star’s terrible seven days have ended with surprising evidence that nothing can touch Mr Trump, as it emerged the past seven days have done little to lower his status with the public.

'The Washington Post found that despite a negative public reaction to the Helsinki summit, most Americans do not feel Mr Trump went “too far” in supporting Mr Putin. While more Americans say US leadership has become weaker rather than stronger, his ratings on this question are slightly improved from last autumn.'


Inside Trump’s disaster week
 
Nice sane reaction from the Bigly Brained man with All The Best Words.

 

Nemesis44UK

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Yes but just because I live in Wyoming does not mean I don’t see other parts of the country and the people that exist in them.

Yes I know his excuses all smell like his arrsehole. We talk about them here as well. Just in a more diplomatic fashion to avoid fistfights.

The question that none of you folks want to ask is what led to him being elected in the first place? Then we need to ask how the Dems lost an election that should have been theirs and how they seem to be ready to lose 2020?
I would argue that the Dems put Trump in power by fielding the godawful candidate Hillary Clinton.
 

Nemesis44UK

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Book Reviewer
So nothing to do with Republican Party selection then? Yep, no matter what, its always the democrats fault.
The Republicans can nominate anyone and for whatever reason, they chose Trump as their candidate. Hillary was the Antichrist for many - career politico who had an unlikeable personality. The Dems should’ve known better, but they misjudged the voter base and assumed Trump wouldn’t gain traction.
 
The Republicans can nominate anyone and for whatever reason, they chose Trump as their candidate. Hillary was the Antichrist for many - career politico who had an unlikeable personality. The Dems should’ve known better, but they misjudged the voter base and assumed Trump wouldn’t gain traction.
Yep. I am a centrist, slightly veering towards the dems, but my god I couldn't vote for her in any shape or form. There really was no sane choice for me tbh.
 
The Dems should’ve known better, but they misjudged the voter base and assumed Trump wouldn’t gain traction.
Same thing happened here, the great and the good of business, politics, banking, academia and the media all exist in a bubble where they spend their time agreeing with each other safe in the knowledge that the masses have been subverted enough to believe their lies. Well enough haven't been to have delivered two results that shocked them to the core, hence the seemingly interminable attempts to find grounds to impeach Trump and to corrupt Brexit.
 

Nemesis44UK

LE
Book Reviewer
Yep. I am a centrist, slightly veering towards the dems, but my god I couldn't vote for her in any shape or form. There really was no sane choice for me tbh.
If I had to put my political bias anywhere it would probably be centrist, but even as a neutral in the US elections, I could see that HRC wasn't a candidate many could warm to.

Trump of course is a traitorous fool who is dangerous in three ways - 1) He has an ego the size of Jupiter, 2) He knows nothing and 3)He's not self-aware enough to know he knows nothing.

That leads to problems because he thinks he knows better than his expert advisors, but really he doesn't and that causes him to fumble around any subject like a drunken dock-worker with six months' pay in his pocket.
 

Nemesis44UK

LE
Book Reviewer
Same thing happened here, the great and the good of business, politics, banking, academia and the media all exist in a bubble where they spend their time agreeing with each other safe in the knowledge that the masses have been subverted enough to believe their lies. Well enough haven't been to have delivered two results that shocked them to the core, hence the seemingly interminable attempts to find grounds to impeach Trump and to corrupt Brexit.
Agreed. I'm nearly 50 and i thought I'd pretty much seen it all until Brexit. More specifically, that the retards in power hadn't actually planned for the eventuality that Britain might vote out.

In the most insignificant tasks, even I normally have a contingency plan and I think most people are the same.
 

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