The Trump Presidency...

You criticise posters because they only have an outsiders view of America and yet with the exception of Wyoming it's pretty much the same view as you. We all have access to the same media and the same information it's just that some of us find the acceptance of Trump's "the dog ate my homework" type of excuses" laughable.

Trump isn't one of the political elite he's one of the financial elite he built his business on treating ordinary people as punters to be mugged off, think Trump University. Every time he lies then covers the lie with a bigger one he's mugging them off and laughing because at the end of the day they are just punters.

If you want an example look at his Scottish golfing trip, he stayed at his own resort, how much free publicity for his golf resort do you think that generated, then he billed the punters US tax payer 50k,.
Yes but just because I live in Wyoming does not mean I don’t see other parts of the country and the people that exist in them.

Yes I know his excuses all smell like his arrsehole. We talk about them here as well. Just in a more diplomatic fashion to avoid fistfights.

The question that none of you folks want to ask is what led to him being elected in the first place? Then we need to ask how the Dems lost an election that should have been theirs and how they seem to be ready to lose 2020?
 
Yes but just because I live in Wyoming does not mean I don’t see other parts of the country and the people that exist in them.

Yes I know his excuses all smell like his arrsehole. We talk about them here as well. Just in a more diplomatic fashion to avoid fistfights.

The question that none of you folks want to ask is what led to him being elected in the first place? Then we need to ask how the Dems lost an election that should have been theirs and how they seem to be ready to lose 2020?
Well since you asked

If you had been around in 2016 when we had an election thread you'd know I followed the election from the Iowa caucus like every election since the election that led to Clinton's first term when I was actually living in Denver and toying with the idea of making my move permanent but decided to go an annoy the antipodeans for a bit instead.

Trump ran a brilliant style over substance marketing campaign, it wasn't a political campaign he was selling a product, he sold America a golden age that never really existed the nostalgia for a childhood that thanks to a kind of that amnesia well all have for the past that was in reality just a bit shit, you know like how the sun shone all day during school holidays. Most of all he sold hope even when it was unrealistic it was what people wanted to hear and when you have had nothing for years with the prospect of more nothing you will go for something every day of the week even if it's short term zero hours something.

He certainly had better intelligence on the other Republican candidates picking them off while using his media presence as a bully pulpit to get his message across and sell the snake oil. If you look at his pre-election rallies he basically talked shite and lied too fast for fact checkers to keep up. He talked about bringing people together but did the complete opposite but got the crowd energized with chants like "make America great again", "build that wall", "lock her up" etc. They are all still on YouTube go and have a look at what he promised against not only what he has actually achieved but those things that never got mentioned again, like scrapping the minimum wage.

Clinton took her base for granted and assumed she would win just because and that she would have the non white and woman's vote. Her campaign was the standard "we'll do our best and see how it goes" assuming that the progressives and marginal groups would win the day but with the back stabbing around Bernie Sanders the Democratic electorate was split.

Trump on the other hand just told people what they wanted to hear it was all jam today, he convinced the working man that he was talking to him and that he actually cared but all he was doing was talking to them like they were punters. It was all big infrastructure projects and a return to a coal and steel economy for the rust belt and blue collar voters.

He also courted those that felt that the black man was getting the whip hand and saw a black man in the white house as an anathema to white America. Look how the Tea Party went for a marginal conservative group to a power house pre and post 2008, he played to those who though the only decision a black man should make is what colour dungarees to wear while picking cotton, did you ever see that clip from a Trump rally where every mention of Obama was met with a chant of burn the ni**er from some of the crowd. He also went for the tin foil crowd he was the birthers poster boy and the truthers go to guy.

He wasn't the GOP's first choice but they have had to accept him thinking they could reign him in but now they just seem scared of him because they have their own seats to think about and don't want to cross his base. I find the whole Stormy Daniels affair odd. I doubt he would have survived the primaries if that had come out early doors, I'm no conspiracy theorist but that was kept on the down low for a reason and I'd be looking at who benefits most from a Trump presidency.

Trump also disproportionately benefited from the whole social media thing, the Clinton foundation investigation, Killary, Pizzagate, Benghazi, George Soros, paid protesters and Uranium one all did the rounds and remain in the public consciousness and are even quoted here in spite of them having either little real substance or being just plain bollocks. Ask you friends and see how many them still believe all of those things Hilary was being accused of that actually aren't really a thing.

He has undermined trust in Americas Intelligence services and news media, he's telling you your allies are back stabbing enemies and your enemies are your best mates, his whole shtick is don't look behind the curtain and the problem is that he's got a sizable proportion of the electorate afraid to look behind the curtain because they know what they will find so it's far easier to stick with America **** Ye.

In my opinion the only bit of his plan that failed was that he oversold and actually won, I believe Trump wanted to be the greatest American president that never was so he could spend endless hours on TV sniping at Clinton and subsequent presidents and telling everyone that they would have had their own unicorn if he had won.
 
Well since you asked

If you had been around in 2016 when we had an election thread you'd know I followed the election from the Iowa caucus like every election since the election that led to Clinton's first term when I was actually living in Denver and toying with the idea of making my move permanent but decided to go an annoy the antipodeans for a bit instead.

Trump ran a brilliant style over substance marketing campaign, it wasn't a political campaign he was selling a product, he sold America a golden age that never really existed the nostalgia for a childhood that thanks to a kind of that amnesia well all have for the past that was in reality just a bit shit, you know like how the sun shone all day during school holidays. Most of all he sold hope even when it was unrealistic it was what people wanted to hear and when you have had nothing for years with the prospect of more nothing you will go for something every day of the week even if it's short term zero hours something.

He certainly had better intelligence on the other Republican candidates picking them off while using his media presence as a bully pulpit to get his message across and sell the snake oil. If you look at his pre-election rallies he basically talked shite and lied too fast for fact checkers to keep up. He talked about bringing people together but did the complete opposite but got the crowd energized with chants like "make America great again", "build that wall", "lock her up" etc. They are all still on YouTube go and have a look at what he promised against not only what he has actually achieved but those things that never got mentioned again, like scrapping the minimum wage.

Clinton took her base for granted and assumed she would win just because and that she would have the non white and woman's vote. Her campaign was the standard "we'll do our best and see how it goes" assuming that the progressives and marginal groups would win the day but with the back stabbing around Bernie Sanders the Democratic electorate was split.

Trump on the other hand just told people what they wanted to hear it was all jam today, he convinced the working man that he was talking to him and that he actually cared but all he was doing was talking to them like they were punters. It was all big infrastructure projects and a return to a coal and steel economy for the rust belt and blue collar voters.

He also courted those that felt that the black man was getting the whip hand and saw a black man in the white house as an anathema to white America. Look how the Tea Party went for a marginal conservative group to a power house pre and post 2008, he played to those who though the only decision a black man should make is what colour dungarees to wear while picking cotton, did you ever see that clip from a Trump rally where every mention of Obama was met with a chant of burn the ni**er from some of the crowd. He also went for the tin foil crowd he was the birthers poster boy and the truthers go to guy.

He wasn't the GOP's first choice but they have had to accept him thinking they could reign him in but now they just seem scared of him because they have their own seats to think about and don't want to cross his base. I find the whole Stormy Daniels affair odd. I doubt he would have survived the primaries if that had come out early doors, I'm no conspiracy theorist but that was kept on the down low for a reason and I'd be looking at who benefits most from a Trump presidency.

Trump also disproportionately benefited from the whole social media thing, the Clinton foundation investigation, Killary, Pizzagate, Benghazi, George Soros, paid protesters and Uranium one all did the rounds and remain in the public consciousness and are even quoted here in spite of them having either little real substance or being just plain bollocks. Ask you friends and see how many them still believe all of those things Hilary was being accused of that actually aren't really a thing.

He has undermined trust in Americas Intelligence services and news media, he's telling you your allies are back stabbing enemies and your enemies are your best mates, his whole shtick is don't look behind the curtain and the problem is that he's got a sizable proportion of the electorate afraid to look behind the curtain because they know what they will find so it's far easier to stick with America **** Ye.

In my opinion the only bit of his plan that failed was that he oversold and actually won, I believe Trump wanted to be the greatest American president that never was so he could spend endless hours on TV sniping at Clinton and subsequent presidents and telling everyone that they would have had their own unicorn if he had won.
Points for you!
 
Well since you asked
...In my opinion the only bit of his plan that failed was that he oversold and actually won, I believe Trump wanted to be the greatest American president that never was so he could spend endless hours on TV sniping at Clinton and subsequent presidents and telling everyone that they would have had their own unicorn if he had won.
A shame I can only give that a single like.
 
The Bromance is strong between these two. Trump is inviting his master/pimp over for a "slumber" party.
If he shows signs of a sore arse afterwards, we'll know he's finally on the other end of one of those 'deals' he likes to boast about.
 
I love this one comment about the Putin visit posted by someone on a different site:

"I think the best time for Putin to come would be in early November. That way he could oversee the midterm elections to make sure they came out the way that he wants them to. It's too big a job to leave to Trump and his minions."
 
Trump invites Putin to Washington after interview furor
Apparently he’s rejected the offer of ‘help’ from Putin, but he’s now instructed Bolton to arrange a visit for Putin to DC in the Autumn.
On first sight this is a shocker but then you have to understand that the absolute hysteria on American media this week is actually strengthening his base ahead of the mid term elections - I ve seen people from the dems CNN CNBC etc comparing the Heksinki mtg to pearl harbour 9/11 the holocaust etc etc - in short they have completely lost the plot!! But trumps polling figures have not dropped and the mtg had a75% approval rate with his base - people in the US have quite simply stopped listening to and believing the main stream media - this is borne out by the last 23 was of viewing figures which have CNN prime time viewing now only 5th and 10th for all the rest of its programmes - when it comes to it this is simple human psychology - the more someone exaggerates and outright deliberately misrepresents the truth and more importantly doesn't report the whole story the more people switch of and turn away - make no mistake trumps base and neutrals are watching the ongoing senate, house and IG investigations closely and the things being revealed cannot be blagged away - the latest example being that the IG for intelligence discovered that clintons e mails had been penetrated by at least 5 foreign Intel agencies and that an auto forward had been put on her computer that forwarded 30000 less 4 of her emails to a foreign account - the problem is the IG reported it (accompanied by witnesses) to the FBI agent in charge of the Clinton e mail investigation at the time and he did nothing with it! - if you are a trump supporter or neutral would that make you trust the US Intel services? That is what the left cannot understand


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... the more someone exaggerates and outright deliberately misrepresents the truth ...
Interesting to see what Agent Orange is using for his 'playbook' (assuming he reads at all).

'A big lie (German: große Lüge) is a propaganda technique. The expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, about the use of a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously." '

Big lie - Wikipedia
 
The Bromance is strong between these two. Trump is inviting his master/pimp over for a "slumber" party.
Nah, Vlad's told Dump he want's Ivanka to piss on him. If Dump doesn't arrange it, the Dump's piss tape gets released. Which I've no doubt it will do at some point, when it suits Vlad to do so.
 

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On first sight this is a shocker but then you have to understand that the absolute hysteria on American media this week is actually strengthening his base ahead of the mid term elections - I ve seen people from the dems CNN CNBC etc comparing the Heksinki mtg to pearl harbour 9/11 the holocaust etc etc - in short they have completely lost the plot!! But trumps polling figures have not dropped and the mtg had a75% approval rate with his base )
He is still not doing that well when companred to his previous presidents though:
Approval Rating Comparisons
 
He is still not doing that well when companred to his previous presidents though:
Approval Rating Comparisons
yes, but hes up against decrepit democrats whose base want rid of eg schumer, pelosi - also the democrats have literally no policies other than bring back the taxes trump canned and resist at all costs plus the emergence of the Democratic Socialists are causing them real problems. Its akin to Treason May and Jeremy Corbyn in that the alternative just isn't that palatable - the dems 'blue wave' boast is so far not even a ripple!
 
Amateur Hour: Trump makes his third walk-back on Russia in three days
07/20/18 08:00 AM—UPDATED 07/20/18 08:06 AM By Steve Benen
The Truppit Link

On Monday, Donald Trump stood alongside Vladimir Putin and said he was inclined to take the Russian president’s word over the findings of his own country’s intelligence agencies. A day later, the American president tried to pretend he misspoke.

The same day, however, Trump said Russia is no longer targeting American elections, again contradicting the assessments of the U.S. intelligence community. Later, the White House walked that back, ignoring what was plainly true.

Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) told the Associated Press, “There’s a walk-back of the walk-back of the walk-back of the walk-back? This is dizzying.”

And yet, it got worse. On Wednesday, the White House acknowledged that the president was considering a proposal from Putin – which Trump publicly praised – that would involve turning over innocent Americans to Russia for questioning. This, not surprisingly, generated hair-on-fire apoplexy from U.S. officials and a Senate resolution in opposition to the idea that passed unanimously.

All of which led to the third White House walk-back in three days.

Ahead of the Senate vote Thursday on resolution, Sanders issued a follow-up statement backtracking on what she had said a day earlier about Trump’s position.
“It is a proposal that was made in sincerity by President Putin, but President Trump disagrees with it. Hopefully President Putin will have the 12 identified Russians come to the United States to prove their innocence or guilt,” she said.​
While I’m glad Trump is no longer considering a plan to turn over Americans for Russian interrogation, there’s nothing satisfactory about this particular reversal.


For one thing, the deferential tone, written in such a way as to avoid upsetting Moscow, was absurd on its face. There was nothing “sincere” about Putin’s proposal; it was a stunt Trump was foolish enough to fall for.

For another, this series of embarrassing walk-backs not only make Trump appear weak, they also offer damning evidence that America’s amateur president is simply out of his depth.

As a Washington Post analysis put it, these reversals suggest “he has no idea what he’s doing — and that he was completely out of his element when negotiating with someone like Putin. If that’s the image Trump is trying to project on the world stage, mission accomplished.”
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One of the comments sums it up nicely

The Chump: "I warned Putin in our one-on-one 'We can't have meddling. We can't have any of that'" . Does he think Everyone is as damned dumb and gullible as his apologists? . No one was there to confirm he really said sh1t to his Russian handler. What a goddamned joke! Also I see Putin, at that last secret meeting, instructed the traitorous twatwaffle to have Bolton extend an invite to Putin to come to ANOTHER secret meeting opportunity at the Whites-Only House. We know Donnie DumbSh-t will do as he's told, and his brainless enablers will exclaim 'winning!'.
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Amateur Hour: Trump makes his third walk-back on Russia in three days
07/20/18 08:00 AM—UPDATED 07/20/18 08:06 AM By Steve Benen
The Truppit Link

On Monday, Donald Trump stood alongside Vladimir Putin and said he was inclined to take the Russian president’s word over the findings of his own country’s intelligence agencies. A day later, the American president tried to pretend he misspoke.

The same day, however, Trump said Russia is no longer targeting American elections, again contradicting the assessments of the U.S. intelligence community. Later, the White House walked that back, ignoring what was plainly true.

Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) told the Associated Press, “There’s a walk-back of the walk-back of the walk-back of the walk-back? This is dizzying.”

And yet, it got worse. On Wednesday, the White House acknowledged that the president was considering a proposal from Putin – which Trump publicly praised – that would involve turning over innocent Americans to Russia for questioning. This, not surprisingly, generated hair-on-fire apoplexy from U.S. officials and a Senate resolution in opposition to the idea that passed unanimously.

All of which led to the third White House walk-back in three days.

Ahead of the Senate vote Thursday on resolution, Sanders issued a follow-up statement backtracking on what she had said a day earlier about Trump’s position.​
“It is a proposal that was made in sincerity by President Putin, but President Trump disagrees with it. Hopefully President Putin will have the 12 identified Russians come to the United States to prove their innocence or guilt,” she said.​
While I’m glad Trump is no longer considering a plan to turn over Americans for Russian interrogation, there’s nothing satisfactory about this particular reversal.


For one thing, the deferential tone, written in such a way as to avoid upsetting Moscow, was absurd on its face. There was nothing “sincere” about Putin’s proposal; it was a stunt Trump was foolish enough to fall for.

For another, this series of embarrassing walk-backs not only make Trump appear weak, they also offer damning evidence that America’s amateur president is simply out of his depth.

As a Washington Post analysis put it, these reversals suggest “he has no idea what he’s doing — and that he was completely out of his element when negotiating with someone like Putin. If that’s the image Trump is trying to project on the world stage, mission accomplished.”
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One of the comments sums it up nicely

The Chump: "I warned Putin in our one-on-one 'We can't have meddling. We can't have any of that'" . Does he think Everyone is as damned dumb and gullible as his apologists? . No one was there to confirm he really said sh1t to his Russian handler. What a goddamned joke! Also I see Putin, at that last secret meeting, instructed the traitorous twatwaffle to have Bolton extend an invite to Putin to come to ANOTHER secret meeting opportunity at the Whites-Only House. We know Donnie DumbSh-t will do as he's told, and his brainless enablers will exclaim 'winning!'.
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The man is execrable.
 
Irrefutable evidence has emerged proving that the @realDonaldTrump is as fake as the words coming out of the fat chumps mouth. While Putins and the truppits puppet continues to create chaos in the Whitzetag this photo shows the real Donald hiding and in disguise in the city of Rostov-on-Don in Russia’s southwestern Rostov Oblast region yesterday.

Mind you if I got peed on and ALL OF THE WORLD new it I might go into hiding myself.
 
Well well, by clicking the SAB button @headgear has just shown me two things:
1) He doesn't have a sense of humour.
and
2) He doesn't recognize sattire.

But then again I kind of knew that anyway.
 

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