The Trump Presidency...

Ahh so you can internet your knowledge. Nope I have not lived in all 50 states, but I have lived in Europe.
Baboon186 has a valid point after all most of your points have been statecentric to Wyoming and you have on several occasions dismissed issues on other states with something along the lines of "it may as well be a different country", by the way you do know Europe isn't one country.
 

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The look of fear from Dan Coats when the presenter says “...and this in from the White House....”

 
Baboon186 has a valid point after all most of your points have been statecentric to Wyoming and you have on several occasions dismissed issues on other states with something along the lines of "it may as well be a different country", by the way you do know Europe isn't one country.
Duh, Wyoming is home. I can’t discuss New York or California because I do not reside their nor will I.

I have however lived in a foriegn country and visited many others. Which makes me not the typical “Merican”, who has never left the home land.

So what I can say is that in order to get the feel for a place you need to reside in it for a few years.

The culture shock from this forum alone can be mind blowing, and you are just from the U.K.
 
Duh, Wyoming is home. I can’t discuss New York or California because I do not reside their nor will I.

I have however lived in a foriegn country and visited many others. Which makes me not the typical “Merican”, who has never left the home land.

So what I can say is that in order to get the feel for a place you need to reside in it for a few years.

The culture shock from this forum alone can be mind blowing, and you are just from the U.K.
You criticise posters because they only have an outsiders view of America and yet with the exception of Wyoming it's pretty much the same view as you. We all have access to the same media and the same information it's just that some of us find the acceptance of Trump's "the dog ate my homework" type of excuses" laughable.

Trump isn't one of the political elite he's one of the financial elite he built his business on treating ordinary people as punters to be mugged off, think Trump University. Every time he lies then covers the lie with a bigger one he's mugging them off and laughing because at the end of the day they are just punters.

If you want an example look at his Scottish golfing trip, he stayed at his own resort, how much free publicity for his golf resort do you think that generated, then he billed the punters US tax payer 50k,.
 
You criticise posters because they only have an outsiders view of America and yet with the exception of Wyoming it's pretty much the same view as you. We all have access to the same media and the same information it's just that some of us find the acceptance of Trump's "the dog ate my homework" type of excuses" laughable.

Trump isn't one of the political elite he's one of the financial elite he built his business on treating ordinary people as punters to be mugged off, think Trump University. Every time he lies then covers the lie with a bigger one he's mugging them off and laughing because at the end of the day they are just punters.

If you want an example look at his Scottish golfing trip, he stayed at his own resort, how much free publicity for his golf resort do you think that generated, then he billed the punters US tax payer 50k,.
Yes but just because I live in Wyoming does not mean I don’t see other parts of the country and the people that exist in them.

Yes I know his excuses all smell like his arrsehole. We talk about them here as well. Just in a more diplomatic fashion to avoid fistfights.

The question that none of you folks want to ask is what led to him being elected in the first place? Then we need to ask how the Dems lost an election that should have been theirs and how they seem to be ready to lose 2020?
 
Yes but just because I live in Wyoming does not mean I don’t see other parts of the country and the people that exist in them.

Yes I know his excuses all smell like his arrsehole. We talk about them here as well. Just in a more diplomatic fashion to avoid fistfights.

The question that none of you folks want to ask is what led to him being elected in the first place? Then we need to ask how the Dems lost an election that should have been theirs and how they seem to be ready to lose 2020?
Well since you asked

If you had been around in 2016 when we had an election thread you'd know I followed the election from the Iowa caucus like every election since the election that led to Clinton's first term when I was actually living in Denver and toying with the idea of making my move permanent but decided to go an annoy the antipodeans for a bit instead.

Trump ran a brilliant style over substance marketing campaign, it wasn't a political campaign he was selling a product, he sold America a golden age that never really existed the nostalgia for a childhood that thanks to a kind of that amnesia well all have for the past that was in reality just a bit shit, you know like how the sun shone all day during school holidays. Most of all he sold hope even when it was unrealistic it was what people wanted to hear and when you have had nothing for years with the prospect of more nothing you will go for something every day of the week even if it's short term zero hours something.

He certainly had better intelligence on the other Republican candidates picking them off while using his media presence as a bully pulpit to get his message across and sell the snake oil. If you look at his pre-election rallies he basically talked shite and lied too fast for fact checkers to keep up. He talked about bringing people together but did the complete opposite but got the crowd energized with chants like "make America great again", "build that wall", "lock her up" etc. They are all still on YouTube go and have a look at what he promised against not only what he has actually achieved but those things that never got mentioned again, like scrapping the minimum wage.

Clinton took her base for granted and assumed she would win just because and that she would have the non white and woman's vote. Her campaign was the standard "we'll do our best and see how it goes" assuming that the progressives and marginal groups would win the day but with the back stabbing around Bernie Sanders the Democratic electorate was split.

Trump on the other hand just told people what they wanted to hear it was all jam today, he convinced the working man that he was talking to him and that he actually cared but all he was doing was talking to them like they were punters. It was all big infrastructure projects and a return to a coal and steel economy for the rust belt and blue collar voters.

He also courted those that felt that the black man was getting the whip hand and saw a black man in the white house as an anathema to white America. Look how the Tea Party went for a marginal conservative group to a power house pre and post 2008, he played to those who though the only decision a black man should make is what colour dungarees to wear while picking cotton, did you ever see that clip from a Trump rally where every mention of Obama was met with a chant of burn the ni**er from some of the crowd. He also went for the tin foil crowd he was the birthers poster boy and the truthers go to guy.

He wasn't the GOP's first choice but they have had to accept him thinking they could reign him in but now they just seem scared of him because they have their own seats to think about and don't want to cross his base. I find the whole Stormy Daniels affair odd. I doubt he would have survived the primaries if that had come out early doors, I'm no conspiracy theorist but that was kept on the down low for a reason and I'd be looking at who benefits most from a Trump presidency.

Trump also disproportionately benefited from the whole social media thing, the Clinton foundation investigation, Killary, Pizzagate, Benghazi, George Soros, paid protesters and Uranium one all did the rounds and remain in the public consciousness and are even quoted here in spite of them having either little real substance or being just plain bollocks. Ask you friends and see how many them still believe all of those things Hilary was being accused of that actually aren't really a thing.

He has undermined trust in Americas Intelligence services and news media, he's telling you your allies are back stabbing enemies and your enemies are your best mates, his whole shtick is don't look behind the curtain and the problem is that he's got a sizable proportion of the electorate afraid to look behind the curtain because they know what they will find so it's far easier to stick with America **** Ye.

In my opinion the only bit of his plan that failed was that he oversold and actually won, I believe Trump wanted to be the greatest American president that never was so he could spend endless hours on TV sniping at Clinton and subsequent presidents and telling everyone that they would have had their own unicorn if he had won.
 
Well since you asked

If you had been around in 2016 when we had an election thread you'd know I followed the election from the Iowa caucus like every election since the election that led to Clinton's first term when I was actually living in Denver and toying with the idea of making my move permanent but decided to go an annoy the antipodeans for a bit instead.

Trump ran a brilliant style over substance marketing campaign, it wasn't a political campaign he was selling a product, he sold America a golden age that never really existed the nostalgia for a childhood that thanks to a kind of that amnesia well all have for the past that was in reality just a bit shit, you know like how the sun shone all day during school holidays. Most of all he sold hope even when it was unrealistic it was what people wanted to hear and when you have had nothing for years with the prospect of more nothing you will go for something every day of the week even if it's short term zero hours something.

He certainly had better intelligence on the other Republican candidates picking them off while using his media presence as a bully pulpit to get his message across and sell the snake oil. If you look at his pre-election rallies he basically talked shite and lied too fast for fact checkers to keep up. He talked about bringing people together but did the complete opposite but got the crowd energized with chants like "make America great again", "build that wall", "lock her up" etc. They are all still on YouTube go and have a look at what he promised against not only what he has actually achieved but those things that never got mentioned again, like scrapping the minimum wage.

Clinton took her base for granted and assumed she would win just because and that she would have the non white and woman's vote. Her campaign was the standard "we'll do our best and see how it goes" assuming that the progressives and marginal groups would win the day but with the back stabbing around Bernie Sanders the Democratic electorate was split.

Trump on the other hand just told people what they wanted to hear it was all jam today, he convinced the working man that he was talking to him and that he actually cared but all he was doing was talking to them like they were punters. It was all big infrastructure projects and a return to a coal and steel economy for the rust belt and blue collar voters.

He also courted those that felt that the black man was getting the whip hand and saw a black man in the white house as an anathema to white America. Look how the Tea Party went for a marginal conservative group to a power house pre and post 2008, he played to those who though the only decision a black man should make is what colour dungarees to wear while picking cotton, did you ever see that clip from a Trump rally where every mention of Obama was met with a chant of burn the ni**er from some of the crowd. He also went for the tin foil crowd he was the birthers poster boy and the truthers go to guy.

He wasn't the GOP's first choice but they have had to accept him thinking they could reign him in but now they just seem scared of him because they have their own seats to think about and don't want to cross his base. I find the whole Stormy Daniels affair odd. I doubt he would have survived the primaries if that had come out early doors, I'm no conspiracy theorist but that was kept on the down low for a reason and I'd be looking at who benefits most from a Trump presidency.

Trump also disproportionately benefited from the whole social media thing, the Clinton foundation investigation, Killary, Pizzagate, Benghazi, George Soros, paid protesters and Uranium one all did the rounds and remain in the public consciousness and are even quoted here in spite of them having either little real substance or being just plain bollocks. Ask you friends and see how many them still believe all of those things Hilary was being accused of that actually aren't really a thing.

He has undermined trust in Americas Intelligence services and news media, he's telling you your allies are back stabbing enemies and your enemies are your best mates, his whole shtick is don't look behind the curtain and the problem is that he's got a sizable proportion of the electorate afraid to look behind the curtain because they know what they will find so it's far easier to stick with America **** Ye.

In my opinion the only bit of his plan that failed was that he oversold and actually won, I believe Trump wanted to be the greatest American president that never was so he could spend endless hours on TV sniping at Clinton and subsequent presidents and telling everyone that they would have had their own unicorn if he had won.
Points for you!
 
Well since you asked
...In my opinion the only bit of his plan that failed was that he oversold and actually won, I believe Trump wanted to be the greatest American president that never was so he could spend endless hours on TV sniping at Clinton and subsequent presidents and telling everyone that they would have had their own unicorn if he had won.
A shame I can only give that a single like.
 
The Bromance is strong between these two. Trump is inviting his master/pimp over for a "slumber" party.
If he shows signs of a sore arse afterwards, we'll know he's finally on the other end of one of those 'deals' he likes to boast about.
 
I love this one comment about the Putin visit posted by someone on a different site:

"I think the best time for Putin to come would be in early November. That way he could oversee the midterm elections to make sure they came out the way that he wants them to. It's too big a job to leave to Trump and his minions."
 
Trump invites Putin to Washington after interview furor
Apparently he’s rejected the offer of ‘help’ from Putin, but he’s now instructed Bolton to arrange a visit for Putin to DC in the Autumn.
On first sight this is a shocker but then you have to understand that the absolute hysteria on American media this week is actually strengthening his base ahead of the mid term elections - I ve seen people from the dems CNN CNBC etc comparing the Heksinki mtg to pearl harbour 9/11 the holocaust etc etc - in short they have completely lost the plot!! But trumps polling figures have not dropped and the mtg had a75% approval rate with his base - people in the US have quite simply stopped listening to and believing the main stream media - this is borne out by the last 23 was of viewing figures which have CNN prime time viewing now only 5th and 10th for all the rest of its programmes - when it comes to it this is simple human psychology - the more someone exaggerates and outright deliberately misrepresents the truth and more importantly doesn't report the whole story the more people switch of and turn away - make no mistake trumps base and neutrals are watching the ongoing senate, house and IG investigations closely and the things being revealed cannot be blagged away - the latest example being that the IG for intelligence discovered that clintons e mails had been penetrated by at least 5 foreign Intel agencies and that an auto forward had been put on her computer that forwarded 30000 less 4 of her emails to a foreign account - the problem is the IG reported it (accompanied by witnesses) to the FBI agent in charge of the Clinton e mail investigation at the time and he did nothing with it! - if you are a trump supporter or neutral would that make you trust the US Intel services? That is what the left cannot understand


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... the more someone exaggerates and outright deliberately misrepresents the truth ...
Interesting to see what Agent Orange is using for his 'playbook' (assuming he reads at all).

'A big lie (German: große Lüge) is a propaganda technique. The expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, about the use of a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously." '

Big lie - Wikipedia
 

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