The Trump Presidency...

I am sure the CIA has a budget to try and undermine all Russian elections, I am not pushing a pro trump agenda, I’m just suggesting that trump and Putin both know the games they play and if the expectation from what I am hearing from the western media is trump has committed treason, it seems to be very naive (which it isn’t). Surely both sides know elections are fair game for espionage and interference so really, is this not a non story?
What planet are you living on? The votes of the next Russian election have already been counted and it's a 99% vote in favour of Putin. The septics would have to be insane to try to undermine something like that.

Putin certainly knows exactly what game he's playing. So does Trump, but I'm not sure how "Haven't got a Cluedo" is relevant to international relations.
What planet are you living on? The votes of the next Russian election have already been counted and it's a 99% vote in favour of Putin. The septics would have to be insane to try to undermine something like that.
The Yanks have never been anything but forthright about their desire to undermine governments they don't like and the overt means they use to achieve it, albeit they're (naturally) cagey on the covert means.

They've been a tiny bit more shy still on their desire and methods for replacing wholesale governments they don't like.
I never thought that Trump could be a russian stooge but i am starting to believe this now, take this novichok sage if Vlad asked him what the brits know you can be certain Trump would be dumb enough to tell him, fact that there was no witness's makes this very sus. You only have to look at the body language Putin has all the power, Trump is strong with the weak and weak with the strong.


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It's all false noos apparently, we didn't see him practically suck off Vlad at all even his party are false noos merchants.
Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan said there was no doubt Russia had meddled in US elections and that Mr Putin "does not share our values".

Another senior Republican, Senator John McCain, said it was "one of the most disgraceful performances by an American president in memory".

Trump ally Newt Gingrich said the comments were the "most serious mistake of his presidency", urging him to clarify.

Mr Trump's former communications director Anthony Scaramucci told CNN the "optics are bad" and "he has to reverse course immediately"

However Grofas tweets. . .

While I had a great meeting with NATO, raising vast amounts of money, I had an even better meeting with Vladimir Putin of Russia. Sadly, it is not being reported that way - the Fake News is going Crazy!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 17, 2018
This money he ahem raised from NATO that would be the already agreed contributions rising I presume?
Probably some actual impartial commentary and investigative journalism rather than the wailing of rabid anti-trump moonhowlers who run around screaming the sky is falling every time Donald tweets.
You've not been keeping up with Trump's numerous, stream of consciousness outbursts, have you?
Fair's fair. They didn't in the last one.
They did, many were just given a little help to the "right" direction.

Looks a nice Hane Goshi, by the way. Old Skool cool, effective and efficient.
Watching Donnie’s latest press conference at the moment, the man has the ability to make excuses at the level of a 3 yr old who shât their pants... Apparently he mixed up the word would with wouldn’t in reference to the Russians meddling......
Really? I watched him put realpolitik above petty point scoring by downplaying differences and historic transgressions (the type of which both countries have been committing in each other’s backyards for decades) in public (without knowing what has been discussed on the issues behind closed doors) and instead concentrating on building forward new, stronger relationships with another Nuclear power with whom the US has shared interests in over issues such as China, the Middle East and Islamic terrorism.
He threw the entire US intelligence community under a bus when he took Putin's side, not theirs.
Despicable .
So yes we overwhelmingly voted for the Donald, because Hillary would have just continued the trend BO was on. When the average Joe loses his job, while DC thrives and our political leadership gives not a feck it leaves long memories. I spent more time trying to cut expenses in the family budget, and maintain a decent quality of life under BO than anything else. I have not personally gotten a cola in about 5 years now. My employer actually cut wages in all state positions significantly. The only thing that went up slightly were my VA bennies because they are tied to social security increases.

So while the world can think BO was a saint you did not have to deal with his policies for the home team. We despised the man and still do.

Hawaii, D.C. Residents Most Approving of Obama in 2013
Mate, more people voted for Hillary than for Trump.
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