The Trump Presidency...

If you are a intelligence specialist in the US how shit must you feel today. Your President has just thrown you all under the bus and now believes a ex-KGB officer who murders those that disagree with him over his own people.

That press conference was the surrender of the US to Russia and showed the lack of moral fibre and any sense of intelligence by Trump.

I can hear the corks popping in Putins party now.

I used to think that there would be some kind of plan, that wrecking the world order was for a cause. Now, no I think Trump is out of his depth and he can only fall back on Hillary bad Russian good.
I expect @SOCALSapper and @Goldbricker to pop along in a minute and tell us that it’s fine; Putin is a good bloke really; the FBI are all democrat shills; Trump is a master diplomat; err...HILLARY. OBAMA. EMAILS.
 
i notice all the Trumpers are quiet right now...
They're probably trying to concoct the bigliest ever, "Yeah but Hillary/Obama...".

Somehow I don't think that will wash this time. Can I just ask the US Trumpettes what it feels like to have a Russian stooge in charge of your country? Oh, I'm so sorry, he's half Sweaty, half Hun isn't he, with absolutely no connection to Russia whatsoever. Nosireebob. Murica...
 
Its worth it just to see the BBC and C4 news frothing at the mouth.

It will come to nothing. Life will go on and the sky wont fall in. I'm sure there is a lot going on behind the scenes
 
Its worth it just to see the BBC and C4 news frothing at the mouth.

It will come to nothing. Life will go on and the sky wont fall in. I'm sure there is a lot going on behind the scenes
I thought the meeting went well, I liked the backing music.


There is nothing going on behind the scenes.

These are not the GRU you are looking for.
 
In public, I’m sure you’re right - for now.

Oh, so am I.

With Putin dictating; trump holding the pen and notepad.
I thought the meeting went well, I liked the backing music.


There is nothing going on behind the scenes.

These are not the GRU you are looking for.
The former CIA Director thats just been on C4 News lost all credibility when he said 'you can read all about it in my new book'...................
 

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Who’d a thought it.
Of course it’s a mainstream media plot. You know that liberal media master plan, had they come out with such an assertion about any other president. They would have been torn asunder and laughed at.

There’s something seriously wrong somewhere.
 
The former CIA Director thats just been on C4 News lost all credibility when he said 'you can read all about it in my new book'...................
That's right because books can't be cleared properly through the author's own government for publication.

Security must make sense.

That means you ask your own government what to say and what not to say.

Not the adversary's government.
 
No kidding. It was fairly obvious, wasn't it?
All the people I can see complaining so far are either democrats or luvvie media types and people getting a good poke from the bloke.

He's asked the NATO members to pick up their fair share of their costs. I think that's fair enough. He's said Merkel has undermined German national security with her unfettered immigration policy - she has. He's questioning PMTMs integrity re honouring a democratic referendum result - its a reasonable question.

Lets wait out and see what the reaction of the Republican party is and the US voter. If he gets a second term then people questioning the bloke will have clearly got it wrong
 
It is bigly concerning that he is so chummy with Putin. Granted the FBI has some major issues and they are a bit damned for their handling of the election.

The real question is what was offered behind the scenes. That will take some time to play out.
 
That's right because books can't be cleared properly through the author's own government for publication.

Security must make sense.

That means you ask your own government what to say and what not to say.

Not the adversary's government.
I was merely questioning the credibility of the former CIA bloke who is clearly making as much noise as possible to flog his book.
 
I was merely questioning the credibility of the former CIA bloke who is clearly making as much noise as possible to flog his book.
Would it have been General Hayden, by any chance. Fomer Director NSA and Director CIA?
 
Would it have been General Hayden, by any chance. Fomer Director NSA and Director CIA?
No. it was a black lad - a former CIA operative. I think he was a nobody - apart from the book of course!!
 

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All the people I can see complaining so far are either democrats or luvvie media types and people getting a good poke from the bloke.

He's asked the NATO members to pick up their fair share of their costs. I think that's fair enough. He's said Merkel has undermined German national security with her unfettered immigration policy - she has. He's questioning PMTMs integrity re honouring a democratic referendum result - its a reasonable question.

Lets wait out and see what the reaction of the Republican party is and the US voter. If he gets a second term then people questioning the bloke will have clearly got it wrong
You genuinely aren't at all concerned by that interview?
 
No. it was a black lad - a former CIA operative. I think he was a nobody - apart from the book of course!!
Ah. I am grateful.

By the way, General Haydon's books are interesting and thought provoking on many matters.

On this issue, he puts the interesting question whether there is not co-operation or collusion; but synchronization.

Disperate groups whose interests collide and so can act separately towards the same policy goal without command, control or direction connection. I hope I do his argument justice.

Rather more subtle to investigate and discern the truth.

It reminds me of a wise Jewish saying I was once told, "When you have two options, take the third".
 
I am generally pretty neutral on Donny because I just consider him comedy relief and nothing more. But.....After listening to him this morning, he has to be either;
A) The most corrupt president in American history making Nixon look like a boy scout
B) The dumbest president in American history
C) A pure genius puppet master who has a brilliant end game that will restore balance to the world
D) A&B
As of now, I believe D) is the most appropriate answer.....

If he takes up Vlad’s offer to have US intelligence interview the Russian 12, I have no doubt he would gleefully turn over for questioning whomever Putin deems to have committed offences against mother Russia. Quid pro quo........
 
Lets wait out and see what the reaction of the Republican party is and the US voter. If he gets a second term then people questioning the bloke will have clearly got it wrong
I see where your reasoning goes wrong:

1. The approval of voters isn't any indication of rightness/wrongness.
2. Ditto political parties.
3. Winning the US Presidential election doesn't depend on the approval of voters.
4. Questioning the bloke in charge ought to be a natural part of any democratic process.
 

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