The Trump Presidency...

[Steamboat]

Indeed.
I seem to recall that you were all in favour of armed insurrection a few days ago.
Try looking up "treason" and "rebellion" in your dictionary, and explain to me why all those law breaking white crackers aren't in jail.
Or dead.

Oh my, somehow I think you would be the fastest caller in the West when you needed those "racist" cops to bail you out of a bind.

 

[velcrostripes]

Lazy racism again.
It isn't that "black people put themselves on harms way".
It's that harm often puts itself in their way driving a police car.

The figures you happily quote are damning, for the wrong reasons.

The black population is about 13% of the whole. Whites are about 60%.
Police kill 50% Whites. Somewhat less than the population profile.
They kill 25 % blacks, nearly double the population profile.

Blacks represents 37% of the prison population. Whites 58%.

So, the White prison population is roughly on par with the share of population.
The Black's however, are nearly three times as likely to be in jail.

That doesn't say to me that white criminals are Professor Moriatys who are harder to catch. Nor does it prove that Blacks are inherently more criminal.

It simply says that if you are black, it is statistically more likely that you will be in jail.
Which implicitly means that you will have been in contact with law enforcement more often.
Which may have some bearing on the numbers of deaths at the hands of the police.
QED.

I wonder if the police are aware of these statistics when confronted by violent , armed criminals ?
" Oh , no , I mustn't draw my weapon and defend myself , it will look bad on the statistics "

 

[velcrostripes]

A helpful video on how to avoid getting a kicking from the police
Chris Rock - How not to get your ass kicked by the police! - YouTube

 

[Tedsson]

I have to give it to him, the big reveal at the end is a good one:


It’ll be interesting or see whether some here will agree with it.

I mostly agree with Beau.

I rather liked the way he structured his argument.

 

[Steamboat]

I wonder if the police are aware of these statistics when confronted by violent , armed criminals ?
" Oh , no , I mustn't draw my weapon and defend myself , it will look bad on the statistics "

No what usually happens is the Blue Flu strikes or certain areas just don't get much of a response at all when something happens. Then more people suffer. The best solution is just to require LE to wear body cameras and provide the funding to make it happen. Because just as often as not, the people who complain about LE tend to be the biggest pot stirring dipshits ever, and having video evidence of their behavior settles things once and for all.

Like the gentleman from Wisconsin who was caught on camera with a bladed weapon, and trying to be the martyr after he was shot by LE after refusing to comply with commands... At what point do we hold individuals responsible for criminal behavior? IF it were up to Hector it would be at the point where citizens or LE officers are an outline on the pavement...

 

[shouldknowbetter]

Lazy racism again.
It isn't that "black people put themselves on harms way".
It's that harm often puts itself in their way driving a police car.

The figures you happily quote are damning, for the wrong reasons.

The black population is about 13% of the whole. Whites are about 60%.
Police kill 50% Whites. Somewhat less than the population profile.
They kill 25 % blacks, nearly double the population profile.

Blacks represents 37% of the prison population. Whites 58%.

So, the White prison population is roughly on par with the share of population.
The Black's however, are nearly three times as likely to be in jail.

That doesn't say to me that white criminals are Professor Moriatys who are harder to catch. Nor does it prove that Blacks are inherently more criminal.

It simply says that if you are black, it is statistically more likely that you will be in jail.
Which implicitly means that you will have been in contact with law enforcement more often.
Which may have some bearing on the numbers of deaths at the hands of the police.
QED.

There you go again with the casually thrown away, unsubstantiated racism accusation.

I think, in good old lefty, liberal, snowflake, socialist manner you are that which you accuse others of being. You are a racist! I think that everyone, no matter their start has the personal ability to make what they will of themselves. You think that blacks in poverty cannot possibly do any better than a life of crime. Despite not every black in poverty getting into crime. I think there is a level of choice. You look down on blacks in poverty as incapable of anything else but crime. You are no better than the whites in WW2 who thought that black aviators couldn’t possibly be good flyers. You are the same as liberals who say there should be no voter ID requirements because blacks are less capable of getting ID. They are out and out racists.

Prison populations do not need to be the same proportion as ethnic or gender make up. Otherwise 51% of the prison population should be female. Should the police just randomly round up people so the prison population matches the general population? No. That would be stupid.

Prison populations should hopefully be closely matched to the level of criminality and the severity of the crime. You say more blacks are in jail because the police catch them more and this leads to more deaths. I say more blacks are in jail because more blacks commit crimes which attract a jail sentence. Whether those sentencing rules are fair I cannot say. I am not a criminologist and I don’t think you are either from your demonstrations so far.

Finally you really need to stop randomly throwing the word racist around like a chimp flinging faeces. Just because someone provides data which contradicts your viewpoint it isn’t racist. Data can’t be racist. It’s just data. Try to contradict the interpretation of the data but maybe slightly better than you did with prison populations. That was just embarrassing. Every time you start a post with a racism accusation I am going to give you a dumb and then call you a racist right back. Maybe that will stop you casually accusing people of what was one of the most heinous crimes that could be committed. Right up until idiots like you devalued the word by calling everyone you disagree with it.

 

[Steamboat]

There you go again with the casually thrown away, unsubstantiated racism accusation.

I think, in good old lefty, liberal, snowflake, socialist manner you are that which you accuse others of being. You are a racist! I think that everyone, no matter their start has the personal ability to make what they will of themselves. You think that blacks in poverty cannot possibly do any better than a life of crime. Despite not every black in poverty getting into crime. I think there is a level of choice. You look down on blacks in poverty as incapable of anything else but crime. You are no better than the whites in WW2 who thought that black aviators couldn’t possibly be good flyers. You are the same as liberals who say there should be no voter ID requirements because blacks are less capable of getting ID. They are out and out racists.

Prison populations do not need to be the same proportion as ethnic or gender make up. Otherwise 51% of the prison population should be female. Should the police just randomly round up people so the prison population matches the general population? No. That would be stupid.

Prison populations should hopefully be closely matched to the level of criminality and the severity of the crime. You say more blacks are in jail because the police catch them more and this leads to more deaths. I say more blacks are in jail because more blacks commit crimes which attract a jail sentence. Whether those sentencing rules are fair I cannot say. I am not a criminologist and I don’t think you are either from your demonstrations so far.

Finally you really need to stop randomly throwing the word racist around like a chimp flinging faeces. Just because someone provides data which contradicts your viewpoint it isn’t racist. Data can’t be racist. It’s just data. Try to contradict the interpretation of the data but maybe slightly better than you did with prison populations. That was just embarrassing. Every time you start a post with a racism accusation I am going to give you a dumb and then call you a racist right back. Maybe that will stop you casually accusing people of what was one of the most heinous crimes that could be committed. Right up until idiots like you devalued the word by calling everyone you disagree with it.

Somehow I think he is the lefty that hangs out with a very non diverse crowd of people...

 

[Sam The Bam]

Somehow I think he is the lefty that hangs out with a very non diverse crowd of people...

Somehow I think they are someone who has never patrolled a predominately black neighbourhood in a police car and doesn't know what the fvck they are harping on about and would have nothing to say if he didn't have google at their fingertips.

 

[Steamboat]

Somehow I think they are someone who has never patrolled a predominately black neighbourhood in a police car and doesn't know what the fvck they are harping on about and would have nothing to say if he didn't have google at their fingertips.

Well it is a pity you couldn't have had him as a partner for a few days.

 

[Sam The Bam]

Well it is a pity you couldn't have had him as a partner for a few days.

I have no idea how they would have reacted and wouldn't hazard a guess as I have never met them. Lets just say it isn't for the faint of heart.

 

[Zemlyak]

I mostly agree with Beau.

I rather liked the way he structured his argument.

Yup, he built it up reasonably well I thought.

 

[Chef]

I have to give it to him, the big reveal at the end is a good one:


It’ll be interesting or see whether some here will agree with it.

Rather elegantly done.

There doesn't seem to be an equivalent list of fourteen points of socialism/communism.

I ask because many points seem to be common to both regimes.

On this list 1-7 and 11-14 seem to feature in both:

14 Points of Fascism

 

[DaManBugs]

Rather elegantly done.

There doesn't seem to be an equivalent list of fourteen points of socialism/communism.

I ask because many points seem to be common to both regimes.

On this list 1-7 and 11-14 seem to feature in both:

14 Points of Fascism

There are only two "points" to be made with regard to Socialism/Communism. If you go to a country that calls itself Socialist, ask if the workers are in charge. If they're not, then it's not Socialism. If you go to a country that calls itself Communist, then ask if they use money. If the answer is "Yes", then it's not Communist. See? Eezee, innit?

MsG

 

[Murphy_Slaw]

It is an immutable law of the Internet, not just our little corner of it.

It even has a name: Muphry's Law.

Muphry's law is an adage that states: "If you write anything criticizing editing or proofreading, there will be a fault of some kind in what you have written".

It has plenty of other names as well: Muphry's law - Wikipedia.

You didn't see me ,right?
Anyway my speeling is always prefuct.

 

[Ritch]

I'm still waiting for Dude to tell us if he enjoyed the salty tears of the libtards when Trump won. Ohhhh wait, I'm sorry. My bad. He didn't.

 

[mrdude]

I'm still waiting for Dude to tell us if he enjoyed the salty tears of the libtards when Trump won. Ohhhh wait, I'm sorry. My bad. He didn't.

I'm still enjoying bathing in the tears of remoaners for now - by the time they run out, USA will have had another 5 elections at least. , I'm feeling dehydrated at the moment due to all the salt I am still getting from those tears - so I'm away for a cup of tea from my "remoaners tears" mug.

 

[offog]

I'm still enjoying bathing in the tears of remoaners for now - by the time they run out, USA will have had another 5 elections at least. , I'm feeling dehydrated at the moment due to all the salt I am still getting from those tears - so I'm away for a cup of tea from my "remoaners tears" mug.

Are those the ones made in the EC and follow EU industry guidance.

 

[exbleep]

I'm still enjoying bathing in the tears of remoaners for now - by the time they run out, USA will have had another 5 elections at least. , I'm feeling dehydrated at the moment due to all the salt I am still getting from those tears - so I'm away for a cup of tea from my "remoaners tears" mug.

Obsessive twat tries to change the subject.
Can't admit he was wrong on both counts.

 

[Chef]

There are only two "points" to be made with regard to Socialism/Communism. If you go to a country that calls itself Socialist, ask if the workers are in charge. If they're not, then it's not Socialism. If you go to a country that calls itself Communist, then ask if they use money. If the answer is "Yes", then it's not Communist. See? Eezee, innit?

MsG

So neither socialism nor communism has ever existed. Nor ever will while money and leaders exist.

You're right it is easy.

 

[Zemlyak]

Rather elegantly done.

There doesn't seem to be an equivalent list of fourteen points of socialism/communism.

I ask because many points seem to be common to both regimes.

On this list 1-7 and 11-14 seem to feature in both:

14 Points of Fascism

Fair point. I haven't studied or looked into the comparative differences or similarities between fascism and socialism to comment with any knowledge, though I do recall our general studies teacher who was a bit of a lefty, (or so he made out, it was the 70s) that there were elements in both which appealed to the left and right so yes I suppose there would be some commonalities.