The Trump Presidency...

Well that didn't age well, did it? Seems HCL does help. Some of the more suspicious might think the timing was on purpose...



Your publication was in August. Here's what later publications has to say about hydroxychloroquine. The Lancet probably summarised it best as "multiple high-quality studies subsequently showed no benefit of hydroxychloroquine use as post-exposure prophylaxis or as a COVID-19 treatment".


The Lancet, 5th of November 2020.
Hydroxychloroquine in the prevention of COVID-19 mortality
However, multiple high-quality studies subsequently showed no benefit of hydroxychloroquine use as post-exposure prophylaxis or as a COVID-19 treatment.

Journal of the American Medical Association, 9th of November 2020.
Misguided Use of Hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19The Infusion of Politics Into Science
This issue of JAMA contains yet another study, and certainly among the best published to date, demonstrating the lack of efficacy of hydroxychloroquine as a treatment of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19).

US National Institutes for Health, 9th of November, 2020.
Hydroxychloroquine does not benefit adults hospitalized with COVID-19
A National Institutes of Health clinical trial evaluating the safety and effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine for the treatment of adults with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) has formally concluded that the drug provides no clinical benefit to hospitalized patients.

US National Institutes for Health, 24th of November, 2020.
Hydroxychloroquine doesn’t benefit hospitalized COVID-19 patients
The scientists also found no differences in any of 12 additional outcomes, which included mortality 28 days after assignment to a treatment group or time to recovery. Based on the data, they concluded that hydroxychloroquine was not an effective treatment.

The Public Health Agency of Canada.
Ad-hoc COVID-19 Clinical Pharmacology Task Group: Statement on hydroxychloroquine
The ad-hoc Clinical Pharmacology Task Group recommends against the use of hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for patients with COVID-19 due to negligible evidence of efficacy and significant potential for harm leading to a high risk-to-benefit ratio.
 
What about what I wrote do you think is not true? Are you in denial about what I wrote, because you don't really explain why you don't agree. Instead you just utter some child like wit. Stick to facts - like I have.

Facts? You’ve stated opinions as well as interpretations of facts and events.
 
What about what I wrote do you think is not true? Are you in denial about what I wrote, because you don't really explain why you don't agree. Instead you just utter some child like wit. Stick to facts - like I have.
Speaking of facts, where do you now stand on the pandemic and the vaccine? If I recall correctly, you believe that Covid 19 is a hoax.
 
This made me laugh:

Kamala Harris fury as Democrat 'demands staff stand up when she walks into room'.

Haha lefties, you now have a leader acting much like a NAZI general........this will no doubt make you all warm and fuzzy inside.

Source:
Respect for the Office, if not for the officer.
Also good manners for a gentleman to stand when a lady enters the room.
 

ches

LE
Respect for the Office, if not for the officer.

This.

For any spacker to try to belittle someone for this is just childishness following the usual partisan political bullshit trail. Give your head a wobble.
if you've served, you KNOW we salute the rank not the wearer. Same thing here & unless told beforehand I'd have stood for Ministers if they entered the room.
 
This.

For any spacker to try to belittle someone for this is just childishness following the usual partisan political bullshit trail. Give your head a wobble.
if you've served, you KNOW we salute the rank not the wearer. Same thing here & unless told beforehand I'd have stood for Ministers if they entered the room.
That assumes you'd recognise them. Most are just grey men in grey suits these days surely?
 

FORMER_FYRDMAN

LE
Book Reviewer
Ah sure! Dipshit Donny. An amazingly good leader. Like Hitler, Stalin Pol Pot, Mao Tse Tung, Galtieri, Franco, Gallardo, Zucharno you mean? All "amazing leaders" who plunged their countries into despair. Is that what you mean by "amazing leader"?

MsG
You missed off Erich Honecker.
 
The following story is mainly about how the QAnon nutters are handling Biden becoming president.
Biden's inauguration sows doubt among QAnon conspiracy theorists

Most of what it has to say has been mentioned by various other posters already, so I'll just bring up one point mentioned in the story. Various far right groups are trying to recruit among disillusioned "Q" believers, as they see this is the best time to approach them, when they are feeling low and looking for new hope.

Some groups seized the moment to try to recruit disillusioned QAnon supporters to white supremacy and other far-right neofascist movements like the Proud Boys. On Wednesday, for example, an anonymous poster on 4chan posited in a thread that "this would be the perfect time to start posting Nat Soc propaganda in Q anon groups. Clearly, this is a very low point for Q believers, and once people have been broken, they will look for ways to cling back to hope again." Nat Soc stands for national socialism, commonly referred to as Nazism.

This seems quite plausible to me, as there was also an attempt by the far right to recruit Canadians on ARRSE after the last election in Canada (they weren't well received here).

This is something to keep in mind when reading about the far right being active in QAnon and various other Trumpite groups. They aren't necessarily an integral part of these groups, but rather see them as a place in which to recruit members for themselves.
 
This.

For any spacker to try to belittle someone for this is just childishness following the usual partisan political bullshit trail. Give your head a wobble.
if you've served, you KNOW we salute the rank not the wearer. Same thing here & unless told beforehand I'd have stood for Ministers if they entered the room.
And it's just good, decent manners
 

Ayatollah

Old-Salt
@Ayatollah is continuing to show her inability to check if information is correct.
Well, when western news is so late arriving, mistakes tend to happen. and I prefer to receive late news than the fake, manufacturing efforts of American media where Google, Twitter, Facebook, and Amazon plus a few others are allowed to control what happens in an election and controls what people are allowed to think and say.
 

FORMER_FYRDMAN

LE
Book Reviewer
Abdicated as leader of the Free World, went into N Korea because he wanted the Nobel Peace Prize and/or bask in the world limelight as a peace-maker and was roundly suckered by Fat Boy Kim. The booming economy was in a cycle that was going to happen whatever, he just got lucky. Didn't start any wars, good for him, what about the near civil war he has created in his own country?

All of that can equally be levelled at Obama and part of the problem is that it wasn't.

Obama certainly laid the economic foundation that Trump benefitted from but, on the downside, North Korea probably acquired its nuclear capability on his watch and I've yet to hear anything sensible from anybody about how to deal with a nuclear power that has China for a friend. Trump did as well with NK as could be reasonably expected - that problem can only be resolved in Beijing.

I'm not sure what abdicating as the leader of the Free World means given that large chunks of that Free World were doing energy deals with Russia, trade deals with China and failing to maintain agreed defence spending levels. Like him or loathe him, in foreign policy terms, Trump caused less proactive havoc than George W Bush, less apathetic havoc than Barry O and less general confusion than Bill Clinton.

As for near civil war, Trump is a symptom of the American malaise and, while he certainly added fuel to the fire and can comfortably claim to be the most horribly flawed and least presidential president in American history, he's not the cause of it.
 
You don’t think that if a very small minority (that commits a massively disproportionate amount of homicides and violent crime) might ‘just’ be involved in police shootings in a similarly disproportionate amount
Define "disproportionate" and "homicides" in absolute terms, not relative ("responsible for half of all homicides and violent crimes! Eleventy!"). Then look again at your comment.

Say, for sake of argument, that you're correct (I do wonder where you got your figures from, but that's another discussion) - and that a population of (say) 13% of the USA commits 50% of (say) the 15,000 homicides per year. That's 8,000 murderers per 42 million people. Let's call it a million violent criminals, just to make it a round number.

Congratulations, you are trying to justify unequal treatment of over 41 million innocent US citizens, purely on the basis of their skin colour. Would you agree that counts as... "prejudice", perhaps?

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Figures from the FBI's Uniform Crime Report
 
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Ayatollah

Old-Salt
OK. So we'll, er, forget that Dipshit Donny presided over the avoidable deaths of over 400, 000 US citizens, is that right? Should we also forget that no US president has presided over more deaths than in the Civil War? Should we also forget that Dipshit Donny has increased the President Obama drone strikes of 468 in eight years to 1,476 strikes in just four years? Just what is wrong with you, fella?

MsG
What utter piffle, the deaths were the result of bad State and City policy, Trump followed the advice of his advisers one of which was Fauci who is now working for Biden. I laugh at how twist facts to try and score points. Europe has only recently started to vaccinate, yet you keep your mouth zipped on the number of deaths in the 27. Of which Belgium has the highest cases of Deaths and Victims per capita in the world..
 
You are conflating two separate, though related, incidents - 3 PARA and KOSB
How so? I quite clearly, in the original statement, that I was referring to the incident a week or two after the Paras, in which the KOSB lost a GPMG. No conflation at all, in fact I was trying to avoid it.
 

Ayatollah

Old-Salt
Not the only one walking away from TangoMan.

'Donald Trump’s legal troubles began mounting before he could even step foot out of the White House on Wednesday.

'Reports indicated early in the morning on Inauguration Day that federal prosecutors in New York had obtained some of his financial records amid an investigation into the former president and his private business. Those records were obtained despite the Supreme Court having not yet made a decision on whether Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jrcan demand eight years of Mr Trump’s tax records from his accounting firm, Mazars USA. While the district attorney’s office was still waiting for an order from the nation’s highest court on its subpoena powers, Bloomberg News reported the new developments meant investigators can begin verifying criminal allegations against the Trump Organization and former president.

'By the afternoon, as President Joe Biden was officially sworn in as the next commander-in-chief, reports said Mr Trump’s team of tax lawyers were officially severing ties with him. A spokesperson for Morgan Lewis said the global law firm was ending its relationship with Mr Trump and his business, which predated his 2015 presidential bid, according to The American Lawyer.'


You are just confirming, that Trump's biggest fight was and is with the establishment, and as such his achievements were extraordinarily successful.
 
You don’t think that if a very small minority (that commits a massively disproportionate amount of homicides and violent crime) might ‘just’ be involved in police shootings in a similarly disproportionate amount?
The small minority IN America that commits a massively disproportionate amount of homicide and violent crime against brown people ARE involved in police shootings.
They are the police.

Edit- I seem to have some acquired some "Dumbs".
Here are some numbers.
 
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Fr SpodoKomodo

Old-Salt
You are just confirming, that Trump's biggest fight was and is with the establishment, and as such his achievements were extraordinarily successful.
Emongmong sock. You should made paid more attention when they were talking about the proper use of commas in your ESL lessons, Mikhail.
 

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