Nope! - and that's an informed 'nope!'Have they solved the problem of recycling EV batteries yet?
They've not managed to solve the problem of manufacturing them properly yet.
Nope! - and that's an informed 'nope!'Have they solved the problem of recycling EV batteries yet?
PJ O'R is to the Right of me, but he's worth reading.In fairness, the US electorate have been offered nothing but the 'corrupt, slimy weasel' option for a wee while now.
If anyone's getting over-excited on this thread, I thoroughly recommend P. J. O'Rourke's 'How the Hell Did This Happen?'
Like Trump BEGGING certain people to find 'any dirt' on certain other people? Any spare emails, comrade? Coupla invoices to keep the cold out, guv?.... society has turned snitching into an art.
It really is closer to 1021 than 2021 in your neck of the woods, isn't it?I do wonder if any members of the forum ever had to go rounds with their kids at any point. I know my dad and I exchanged a few punches, 20 odd years ago. Snitching on your parents was never going to happen, and that was with more than harsh words. I horse collared my lad when he was acting out of line with his step father a few months ago, and I imagine it will happen again.
If the current crop of 18 year olds think this is the woke thing to do, then they are going to hate life in the future.
Ah, that’s patrioticLike Trump BEGGING certain people to find 'any dirt' on certain other people? Any spare emails, comrade? Coupla invoices to keep the cold out, guv?
I think you missed out on the Red Forman parenting plan for teenagers...It really is closer to 1021 than 2021 in your neck of the woods, isn't it?
Nope! - and that's an informed 'nope!'
They've not managed to solve the problem of manufacturing them properly yet.
So what's your opinion on the occupation of the Capitol? Who was behind that attack?Boring, haven't you got anything better to come back with - I'll give that 1 out of ten, and that's me being generous. Mind you lefties are pretty crap at everything apart from whinging and living like leaches off the backs of other people's work - so I didn't expect anything different.
Oh my the idea seems to be growing.
I've just looked at the official Tesla map for Tesla Superchargers in Southwestern Ontario. They have one in Cambridge, one in Kitchener, one in Woodstock, one in London, one half way between Chatham and Windsor, one in Kincardine, and one in Owen Sound. The majority of these are located to serve traffic on the 401 (one of the main highways in Canada) and are not conveniently located to serve the local market. Once you get outside of the GTA, Tesla Supercharger stations are few and far between.In Ontario the Tesla supercharger network is fairly plentiful and growing. It’s backed up by destination charging which is pretty widespread. Big difference between the destination and superchargers. Destination at 40 to 70km per hour or so but superchargers at 250km per hour plus. The Tesla’s and I think all of the EVs have continual software upgrades and I think as the technology improves the cars performance will go with it.
I've just looked at the official Tesla map for Tesla Superchargers in Southwestern Ontario. They have one in Cambridge, one in Kitchener, one in Woodstock, one in London, one half way between Chatham and Windsor, one in Kincardine, and one in Owen Sound. The majority of these are located to serve traffic on the 401 (one of the main highways in Canada) and are not conveniently located to serve the local market. Once you get outside of the GTA, Tesla Supercharger stations are few and far between.
They also have just one service centre in all of southwestern Ontario, and that's in KW, which surprise, surprise is one of the centres of the tech industry in Canada and so has many of the same market features of Silicon Valley (without being as expensive or crowded to live in).
Maserati have better dealer and service coverage than Tesla do, and I could fill up a Maserati (if I had one) at any of hundreds of gas (petrol) stations located everywhere.
The 800 volt rapid charging systems that I mentioned operate at a much higher voltage than the 480 volt Tesla systems, and that's not the sort of difference that can be adapted to with a software upgrade.
The original question was with respect to charging electric cars in general, rather than Tesla specifically. According to various sources that I have read, it takes roughly 40 minutes to charge a Tesla to the 80 per cent level (the charging rate slows drastically after that) using a Tesla Supercharger.
At that rate most people will be looking to charge their cars overnight at home. According to press reports that I have read in recent years, if everyone had an electric car, and everyone wanted to charge it at home at night, that would require major upgrades to electric distribution systems in cities all over Canada, including lines and transformers. That will require a massive investment, which in turn will push up utility bills for everyone.
As I mentioned in a previous post however, if rapid charging can happen quickly enough, say 10 minutes, then it becomes more like filling up your car and you will be more likely to go to a commercial charging station instead of doing it at home. These charging stations could be located in the same sorts of places as gas (petrol) stations are. As major consumers they could buy electricity at industrial rates and so get it much cheaper than you could. This would mean that cities wouldn't need to upgrade their entire distribution infrastructure all over the city, they would just need large lines to the major charging stations.
So as I said earlier, the location and number of charging stations will depend heavily upon how much capacity batteries have and how rapidly they can charge. If they can be charged rapidly enough we will likely see a situation where charging your car becomes like filling it up with liquid fuel today is. The limitations and problems of 5 years ago may not be particularly relevant to the vehicles of 10 years from now.
Well if the car is self driving, the police could just tick a box on their PC at the station and when you got in your car the doors could lock you in and then the car could drive you to the police station and park there until the police can get around to stepping outside and hauling you into a cell. We're not there yet, but some day ...Here is a moonhowler, that perhaps isn’t too far away and could impact situations such as mass protest and riots. The new generation of EVs will be (some are now) hooked up to the manufacturer just like your mobile phone. For me the car knows exactly where it is at all times, speed limits, restrictions etc. The days when the car simply won’t break speed limits is coming. I wonder then when cars will be controlled as to where they go. Not a huge stretch to control the movement of certain people attending political demos if they are planning to go by car.
Seems a crazy thing to me but something very doable I think for the manufacturer’s soon.
I think the problems of electric cars today are like the problems of the early horseless carriages. Despite all the people shouting "get a horse!", the problems were not inherently unsolvable, they just took time to solve before they could provide reliable and affordable transportation for the average person.The other problem in getting everyone over to electric cars is the cost. Billy Bob and Joe Bob traditionally buy bangers for a few hundred quid/bucks. To pick up an electric roller skat for that money would likely mean the batteries were shagged, and needing replacement which they could not afford. It is going to be a long, long time before the world stops running on oil.
Another thought:
Just like there is a market for nicked catalytic convertors I foresee a market for nicked batteries.
Just like there is a market for nicked catalytic convertors I foresee a market for nicked batteries.
Frontier Days!! Buckle Bunny Capitol of the world.I'm sitting here thinking of things that the rest of the Union would miss if Wyoming were to leave, I'll get back to you if I can think of anything.
Until thenI've just looked at the official Tesla map for Tesla Superchargers in Southwestern Ontario. They have one in Cambridge, one in Kitchener, one in Woodstock, one in London, one half way between Chatham and Windsor, one in Kincardine, and one in Owen Sound. The majority of these are located to serve traffic on the 401 (one of the main highways in Canada) and are not conveniently located to serve the local market. Once you get outside of the GTA, Tesla Supercharger stations are few and far between.
They also have just one service centre in all of southwestern Ontario, and that's in KW, which surprise, surprise is one of the centres of the tech industry in Canada and so has many of the same market features of Silicon Valley (without being as expensive or crowded to live in).
Maserati have better dealer and service coverage than Tesla do, and I could fill up a Maserati (if I had one) at any of hundreds of gas (petrol) stations located everywhere.
The 800 volt rapid charging systems that I mentioned operate at a much higher voltage than the 480 volt Tesla systems, and that's not the sort of difference that can be adapted to with a software upgrade.
The original question was with respect to charging electric cars in general, rather than Tesla specifically. According to various sources that I have read, it takes roughly 40 minutes to charge a Tesla to the 80 per cent level (the charging rate slows drastically after that) using a Tesla Supercharger.
At that rate most people will be looking to charge their cars overnight at home. According to press reports that I have read in recent years, if everyone had an electric car, and everyone wanted to charge it at home at night, that would require major upgrades to electric distribution systems in cities all over Canada, including lines and transformers. That will require a massive investment, which in turn will push up utility bills for everyone.
As I mentioned in a previous post however, if rapid charging can happen quickly enough, say 10 minutes, then it becomes more like filling up your car and you will be more likely to go to a commercial charging station instead of doing it at home. These charging stations could be located in the same sorts of places as gas (petrol) stations are. As major consumers they could buy electricity at industrial rates and so get it much cheaper than you could. This would mean that cities wouldn't need to upgrade their entire distribution infrastructure all over the city, they would just need large lines to the major charging stations.
So as I said earlier, the location and number of charging stations will depend heavily upon how much capacity batteries have and how rapidly they can charge. If they can be charged rapidly enough we will likely see a situation where charging your car becomes like filling it up with liquid fuel today is. The limitations and problems of 5 years ago may not be particularly relevant to the vehicles of 10 years from now.
I'll never run out, I'm sitting on a salt mountain that I gathered up from all the remoaner tears, lefty tears are ten times saltier that any other type, so I'm not going to run out of salt any time in the next 100 or so years!
Here's my December 31st collection of lefty tears once they dried out!
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Here's my collection from 1st Jan 2020 - I'm still mining from that at the moment.
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