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The Trump Presidency...

Because they don't like a racist, fascist, mysoginistic, corrupt, narcissistic, lying, undemocratic, autocratic moron with delusions of competence, intent on becoming a president for life?

Just a wild-assed stab in the dark guess like...
Many of us here have worked very closely with US forces in a number of different theatres. Most of us have visited the US and love your country for what it has the offer. Most of us remain grateful for your country's support in the two world wars and your vital military and political support of NATO. Most of us regard your countrymen as fundamentally decent people.

Most of us laughed at Trump's oafishness; most of us have joked at his strange and venal utterances. Most of us are horrified by recent events, whereby armed gangs attempted to usurp power in the heart of democracy, egged on by a political loser. Most of us are genuinely worried how a First World country can so rapidly descend into Third World anarchy. Most of us have admired your judicial system steadfastly upholding the law and the Constitution in the face of enormous political and physical threats. Many of us are concerned about how your country can recover its leadership in the face of global scorn.

Does that explain our interest @Steamboat ?
 
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Listen ********, 70 odd million yanks voted for Trump, not the Republicans, Trump.
Spoken to all of them, have you? If your answer is anything other than "Yes", and you know they weren't lying, you cannot possibly state that with any accuracy.

Dry your eyes, princess.
  • He lost because he was the worse candidate.
  • The elections were overwhelmingly free and fair.
  • His team have provided no evidence otherwise, less some shouty social media posts - which don't count.
 
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With some unexpected zip ties/tie wraps for hostages....
I do wonder why the media refers to them as zip ties.

As was pointed out, they are flexible handcuffs. They are for immobilising quickly large amounts of prisoners or hostages.

Suddenly becomes a lot less funny when you look at it like that.
 
That's why I said a "mid range Tesla" was comparable to a Jaguar iPace.

A Tesla Model S starts at $101,990 in Canada, while a Jaguar IPace starts at $91,000. An Audi e-tron starts at $85,600. More direct comparisons of price of course would require a combination of more detailed research plus personal preference, so I'll just say that this puts them all in the same price range and they will be selling to the same sort of customer. That sort of customer won't be the average person.

Tesla's cheapest car is their Model 3, which starts at $52,990 and goes up to $74,990. The top selling car in Canada is the Honda Civic (top seller for more than two decades now), and it starts at $23,400. The Model 3 might be Tesla's "cheapest" car, but it is far from cheap and isn't in anywhere near the price which is affordable by the average person in Canada. It's still in the luxury car price bracket.

Electric cars are at present a luxury product and a long, long, way from being affordable by the mainstream.
Does the Canadian Govt subsidise the Tesla price point?
 
The significant point is that juvenilization inevitably results in some degree of primitivization. We are up against the great paradox of the twentieth century: namely, that breakneck technological advance has gone hand in hand with a return to tribalism, charismatic leader, medicine men, credulity, and tribal wars.

Eric Hoffer: The Temper Of Our Time
Technology plays it part, by insulating the powerful and the Intelligensia, from the harshness of the world and you see that with its promotion of minority interest causes. The societal process around technology has also massively empowered a large minority of individuals at a level below, but that process has also slowly atomised wider society as a whole.

So I think Hoffer is wrong. Because the underlying point remains, that the world outside of our shiny borders is still very harsh and is nothing as rosy as some have, inside the borders without cash. So one could argue, its actually the Empowered people who have gone back to a primitive and infantile state, by assuming that the globalist elites inside governments can retain full control.

Perhaps the rise of populism is a sub-conscious defence mechanism for many people, to metaphorically reform the line, before the next attack...

In Summary:-
Atomisation has increased fear and if the State won't promote the group and increasingly acts like a Board of Directors(tories) or HR Department(labour). People will look to reform the group themselves, with varying degrees of failure, but I don't see the process stopping alltogether.
 
You do have to give someone credit for a media response which is a lot more professional than most of what Trump comes out with.

Simple message, plausible, and repeat. Let's see if it withstands scrutiny.
In a statement issued the same day rioters attacked the Capitol, Amy Kremer denounced the assault and said it was instigated after the rally by a “handful of bad actors,” while seeming to blame Democrats and news organizations for the riot.

“Unfortunately, for months the left and the mainstream media told the American people that violence was an acceptable political tool,” she said. “They were wrong. It is not.”

 
Does the Canadian Govt subsidise the Tesla price point?
It's done at both the federal and the provincial level, and so will vary from province to province. The big problem in many peoples eyes is that these subsidies are going almost entirely to people who are already comparatively well off, so the question arises of why are we giving wads of money to the rich instead of spending it on things like better public transit. Battery powered electric buses for example are something that you don't have to be rich to benefit from and if you use them to replace diesel buses then you can probably make a much bigger environmental impact than the same money spent subsidising the purchase of luxury cars.

Ontario cancelled electric car subsidies of $14,000 per car and sales fell by about 50%. Tesla sued Ontario to try to get the subsidies continued, but only got a temporary extension which has since lapsed.

Currently only British Columbia and Quebec offer subsidies, although the federal government also offers a smaller (about $5000 I think) subsidy. Both of those provinces have large hydro-electric generating capacity. In Quebec in particular, hydro-electric power has a nationalism aspect, and electric cars tap into this. In other words, having an electric car is a flag waving exercise to some people.

In general I like the "idea" of battery powered electric cars and I think there's a great future for them. At present however they are a niche product for the comparatively well off and prices will have to come down massively before they are something the average person can buy.
 
Then we need a commission to put the whole thing to bed.
If that happens, and it turns out that Trump wasn't robbed of the presidency, then there will (almost certainly) be loud (possibly violence-backed) claims that the Commission was rigged.

You could have every single vote hand counted and live broadcast to the whole of the USA, and there would still be a significant proportion (IMHO) that would dispute it.
 
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It's done at both the federal and the provincial level, and so will vary from province to province. The big problem in many peoples eyes is that these subsidies are going almost entirely to people who are already comparatively well off, so the question arises of why are we giving wads of money to the rich instead of spending it on things like better public transit. Battery powered electric buses for example are something that you don't have to be rich to benefit from and if you use them to replace diesel buses then you can probably make a much bigger environmental impact than the same money spent subsidising the purchase of luxury cars.

Ontario cancelled electric car subsidies of $14,000 per car and sales fell by about 50%. Tesla sued Ontario to try to get the subsidies continued, but only got a temporary extension which has since lapsed.

Currently only British Columbia and Quebec offer subsidies, although the federal government also offers a smaller (about $5000 I think) subsidy. Both of those provinces have large hydro-electric generating capacity. In Quebec in particular, hydro-electric power has a nationalism aspect, and electric cars tap into this. In other words, having an electric car is a flag waving exercise to some people.

In general I like the "idea" of battery powered electric cars and I think there's a great future for them. At present however they are a niche product for the comparatively well off and prices will have to come down massively before they are something the average person can buy.
A coming UK problem will be the lack of infrastructure to provide sufficient 'charging stations' to enable mass charging of these vehicles simultaneously and the cables etc. to activate them.
Has that become a problem in Canada?
 
Has nobody here heard about John Sullivan? Antifa started everything on the 6th. And as for Trump being racist..

 

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I wonder what words of healing and unity the President has in store on the occasion of the US Federal Holiday of Martin Luther King Day?

Seems a perfect opportuinity to start the healing process with a dispaly of public spirited leadership?
 
Has nobody here heard about John Sullivan? Antifa started everything on the 6th. And as for Trump being racist..


Wasn't that when he was giving out fedral money to predominanting "people of colour" universities?

I do stand to be corrected.

But King Trump does love being seen to dispense largesse.

Now about the Mexicans and Muslims?
 
Has nobody here heard about John Sullivan? Antifa started everything on the 6th. And as for Trump being racist..

Why do you think a photo op with Trump and 30(ish) black men/women proves anything about whether he is racist or not?

There's a photo of me with my tongue down the throat of a fat bird; doesn't mean that I like Fat People in general.
 
Rumours abound of people close to the orange messiah mooting the possibilites of pardons in exchange for "cash donations".

The talking heads on CNN were saying that Guliani, still apparently working for the orange one, was throwing around the number $2million.

If a pardon is given, or offered, on the basis of a payment, or donation, it opens up a further item to add to the impeachment docket, or other prosecution.

Talking of prosecutions; the DC District Attorney is looking forward to having a chat with the two Trump boys in the near future. I mentioned somewhere way up in the thread that the Trumps were taking the donations to their various political funds. These funds have rules governing their use and application. If you deliberately over pay for a good, or service, for use in accordance with the stated aim of the fund and that overpayment might accidentally find its way back into your pocket you can find yourself in the poop. They were using Trump companies and facilities for their re-election campaign and were blatantly over-billing themselves - thus profiteering from their donations. Ooops!

Chain gang boss: "What y'all doin thar Trump, ya still taking a crap"?

Eric Trump: "Yes boss, shaking the bush boss, shaking the bush".

Hush now, let me dream for a moment.

Those golf rounds and private jets won't pay for themselves.

'The last days of Donald Trump’s presidency have been nothing short of chaotic – so far filled with inciting an insurrection, impeachments and a refusal to attend his successor Joe Biden’s January 20 inauguration.

'As if that weren’t enough for the history books, however, the 74-year-old’s allies have collected huge amounts of money for access to the outgoing President from those seeking pardons before he leaves office, a bombshell new report by The New York Times has detailed.

'The “ad hoc” system – said to be run by the President’s son-in-law and adviser, Jared Kushner – supposedly bypasses the usual “intensive justice department review process intended to identify and vet the most deserving recipients from among thousands of clemency applications,” the paper reports.

'White House sources told CNN that Mr Trump will issue 100 pardon and commutations on his final full day in office on Tuesday, local time.

'Presidential pardons, while not implying innocence, are intended to show mercy to deserving recipients, setting aside any punishment and restoring civil rights lost to a convicted criminal.

'Yet, like almost everything in the last four years, they’re a power that’s been taken to the extreme by Mr Trump, who has instead rewarded them to his personal and political allies, and even, pre-emptively, to his own children.


Donald Trump allies collecting thousands of dollars for presidential pardons (news.com.au)
 
Some good news, the fightback against big tech is starting:

Parler is suing Google for breach of contract in closing them down in 24 hours when the contract states 30 days
and
Rumble is suing Google for 2 Bn for deliberately putting Rumble videos below YouTube videos in their search engine - this is more twisted than it sounds because by doing this google./youtube is financially benefitting to the detriment of Rumble. If you search Funny Dog video Rumble it will automatically come up with youtube videos
 
Some good news, the fightback against big tech is starting:

Parler is suing Google for breach of contract in closing them down in 24 hours when the contract states 30 days
and
Rumble is suing Google for 2 Bn for deliberately putting Rumble videos below YouTube videos in their search engine - this is more twisted than it sounds because by doing this google./youtube is financially benefitting to the detriment of Rumble. If you search Funny Dog video Rumble it will automatically come up with youtube videos

Can you please explain why this is ‘good’ news and not merely ‘news’?
 

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