The Trump Presidency...

[Drazyl]

Do you know every time you lie you lose brain cells? Yes, there's scientific evidence for that!

This explains so much about you.

 

[deanol]

You don’t mean that @ipso_facto is spreading disinformation ?

Hmmm? Let me ponder that for a second...





Yes. He is. The lying lunatic.

 

[PhotEx]

Still pushing disinformation? DC is in total lockdown, no mobile, no nothing. And btw, advice is MAGA supporters are not to attend any rally. Stay home!

If Sleepy Jo needs 25,000 troops to protect a virtual inauguration then maybe he wasn't elected by the people!

please stop licking the toilet bowl

 

[SkippedOnce]

Hmmm? Let me ponder that for a second...





Yes. He is. The lying lunatic.

Yep, definite evidence of electoral fraud, that Dipshit was not even on the ballot for the recently concluded SPoTY. Where's Rudi: I demand a recount!

 

[Tedsson]

I’m the same one you mong
Can’t your attention span go beyond an hour?

Never mind, when space force swoop down you can tell us all that you told us so

Hmmm. Space Force training you say.

We certainly have more than our fair share of space cadets here.

 

[Tedsson]

If you type qanon into Mike Lindells Mypillow website, if gives you a discount.

Mike met Trump yesterday.....

You’ve got to be honest though, the world is world this week. Power cuts, multiple governments falling, FEMAmany things tieing up to do with this stuff.

There is no doubting China’s plan for the USA right? And there is many rumours of influence within the Dems?

So surely it’s plausible that the US Military has had enough & taken matters into their own hands themselves? There is no way they would sell out to China.

Either way it affects us all.

Purely out of interest, are you human?

 

[SkippedOnce]

Another rat deserting the sinking ship.

'Kayleigh McEnany, President Donald Trump’s press secretary, has decided not to stick around until the end of the term and packed up her office Friday. Although she will continue officially holding the role, she will no longer be at the White House, or even in the nation’s capital. McEnany will reportedly be working remotely from Tampa until Wednesday.'

Trump’s Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany Leaves White House a Few Days Early

She will be working remotely from Tampa until Wednesday.

slate.com

 

[SkippedOnce]

One who won't be turning out at the next riot rally.

'A white military veteran shot and wounded a 15-year-old girl when he fired his gun into a car carrying four Black teenagers during a tense confrontation at a rally in support of President Donald Trump near the Iowa Capitol last month.

'Michael McKinney, 25, is charged with attempted murder in the Dec. 6 shooting in Des Moines. McKinney, who was heavily armed and wearing body armor, told police he fired the shot in self-defense. A resident of tiny St. Charles, Iowa, McKinney has posted on Facebook in support of the far-right Proud Boys and against Black Lives Matter.'

White Army Vet Charged in Shooting Black Girl at Trump Rally

Michael McKinney, 25, who was heavily armed and wearing body armor, told police he fired the shot in self-defense.

www.military.com

 

[tommikka]

If you type qanon into Mike Lindells Mypillow website, if gives you a discount.

Or in other words, If you type qanon in as the discount code then you get the standard price and think you’re being treated as special

 

[BuckFelize]

Brilliant in its simplicity.

 

[carlbcfc]

Another rat deserting the sinking ship.

'Kayleigh McEnany, President Donald Trump’s press secretary, has decided not to stick around until the end of the term and packed up her office Friday. Although she will continue officially holding the role, she will no longer be at the White House, or even in the nation’s capital. McEnany will reportedly be working remotely from Tampa until Wednesday.'

Trump’s Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany Leaves White House a Few Days Early

She will be working remotely from Tampa until Wednesday.

slate.com

Pathetic spin. She leave a job on Wednesday, so chooses to move out on the previous weekend. It’s obvious. She wants to be well away from the Space force rays

 

[SkippedOnce]

Pathetic spin. She leave a job on Wednesday, so chooses to move out on the previous weekend. It’s obvious. She wants to be well away from the Space force rays

It seems the 'Space force rays' have already got you.

 

[carlbcfc]

Or in other words, If you type qanon in as the discount code then you get the standard price and think you’re being treated as special

No, you are special. It applies a discount

 

[Spanks]

The 15 most notable lies of Donald Trump's presidency​

Analysis by Daniel Dale (a great Canadian), CNN Updated 9:28 AM ET, Sat January 16, 2021. With slight edits for brevity.

Trying to pick the most notable lies from Donald Trump's presidency is like trying to pick the most notable pieces of junk from the town dump.

The President would say things that we could see with our own eyes were not true. And he would often do this brazen lying for no apparent strategic reason.

The most telling lie: It didn't rain on his inauguration.

It rained during Trump's inaugural address. Then, at a celebratory ball later that day, Trump told the crowd that the rain "just never came" until he finished talking and went inside, at which point "it poured."

The most dangerous lie: The coronavirus was under control.

This was more like a family of lies than a single lie. But each one -- the lie that the virus was equivalent to the flu; the lie that the situation was "totally under control"; the lie that the virus was "disappearing" -- suggested to Americans that they didn't have to change much about their usual behavior.

A year into the crisis, more than 386,000 Americans have died from the virus.

The most alarming lie saga: Sharpiegate.

Trump tweeted in 2019 that Alabama was one of the states at greater risk from Hurricane Dorian than had been initially forecast. The federal weather office in Birmingham then tweeted that, actually, Alabama would be unaffected by the storm.

Not great, but fixable fast with a simple White House correction. Trump, however, is so congenitally unwilling to admit error that he embarked on an increasingly farcical campaign to prove that his incorrect Alabama tweet was actually correct, eventually showcasing a hurricane map that was crudely altered with a Sharpie.

The slapstick might have been funny had White House officials not leaped into action behind the scenes to try to pressure federal weather experts into saying he was right and they were wrong. The saga proved that Trump was not some lone liar: he was backed by an entire powerful apparatus willing to fight for his fabrications.

The most ridiculous subject of a lie: The Boy Scouts.

When I emailed the Boy Scouts of America in 2017 about Trump's claim that "the head of the Boy Scouts" had called him to say that his bizarrely political address to the Scouts' National Jamboree was "the greatest speech that was ever made to them," I didn't expect a reply.
A senior Scouts source -- a phrase I never expected to have to type as a political reporter in Washington, DC -- confirmed to me that no call ever happened.
Yep, the President of the United States was lying about the Boy Scouts.

The ugliest smear lie: Rep. Ilhan Omar supports al Qaeda.

At a White House event in 2019, Trump grossly distorted a 2013 quote from Rep. Ilhan Omar to try to get his supporters to believe that the Minnesota Democrat had expressed support for the terrorist group al Qaeda. Trump went on to deliver additional bigoted attacks against Omar in the following months.

But it's hard to imagine a more vile lie for the President to tell about a Muslim official -- who had already been getting death threats -- than a smear that makes her sound pro-terrorist.

The most boring serial lie: The trade deficit with China used to be $500 billion.

Trump, an incorrigible exaggerator, rarely chose to use an accurate number when he could instead use an inaccurate bigger number. So he said well over 100 times that, before his presidency, the US for years had a $500 billion annual trade deficit with China -- though the actual pre-Trump deficit never even reached $400 billion.

Trump made versions of the "$500 billion" claim so many times that it became almost physically painful for me to fact check it any more.

The most entertaining lie shtick: The burly crying men who had never cried before.

They were almost always male. They were almost always large. They were almost always blue-collar. And, according to the President, they kept walking up to him crying tears of gratitude -- even though they had almost always not previously cried for years.

Trump's series of Tears Stories -- which sometimes doubled as "Sir" Stories -- helped me understand his lying as a kind of performance art.

The stories were oddly grandiose, like something you'd hear from a two-bit foreign strongman. They were also pure shtick. Trump was like a touring stand-up comic, refining and re-using his favored dishonesty bits until they stopped working for him.

The most traditional big lie: Trump didn't know about the payment to Stormy Daniels.

We've established that Trump was not your traditional political liar. One of his distinguishing features is that he lied pointlessly, dissembling about trivial subjects for trivial reasons.

But he also lied when he needed to. When he told reporters on Air Force One in 2018 that he did not know about a $130,000 payment to porn performer Stormy Daniels.

The President was lying to try to get himself out of a tawdry scandal.

The biggest lie by omission: Trump ended family separation.

Much of Trump's lying was clumsy, half-baked.

"You know, under President Obama you had separation. I was the one that ended it."
Yes, Trump signed a 2018 order to end the family separation policy.

What he did not mention to Todd is that what he had ended was his own policy -- a plan announced by his own attorney general that had made family separation standard rather than occasional, as it had been under Obama.

The most shameless campaign lie: Biden will destroy protections for pre-existing conditions
Trump's re-election campaign was consistently and consciously dishonest, especially in its attempts to cast Joe Biden as a frightening radical.

When Trump claimed in September that Biden would destroy protections for people with pre-existing health conditions -- though the Obama-Biden administration created the protections, though the protections were overwhelmingly popular, though Biden was running on preserving them.

Trump himself tried repeatedly to weaken them -- Trump was not merely lying but turning reality upside down.

The lie he fled: He got Veterans Choice.

Trump could have told a perfectly good factual story about the Veterans Choice health care program Obama signed into law in 2014: it wasn't good enough, so he replaced it with a more expansive program he signed into law in 2018.

He claimed over and over -- more than 160 times before I lost count -- that he is the one who got the Veterans Choice program passed after other presidents tried and failed for years.

It wasn't until August 2020 that he was asked about the lie to his face.
He promptly left the room.

The most hucksterish lie: That plan was coming in two weeks
Trump's big health care plan was eternally coming in "two weeks." So were a bunch of other plans and announcements.
Trump is, at his core, a huckster. Every moment of his presidency was a chance for him to sell someone on something, whether or not that something actually existed. And if they asked when they could actually see the magic elixir he said was being brewed just over there behind the curtain, he would just have to delay them until they forgot about it.

Trump was once named Michigan's Man of the Year.

Trump has never lived in Michigan. Why would he have been named Michigan's Man of the Year years before his presidency?

He wouldn't have been. He wasn't. And yet this lie he appeared to have invented in the final week of his 2016 campaign became a staple of his 2020 campaign, repeated at Michigan rally after rally.

It's so illustrative because it makes so little sense.

The most depressing lie: Trump won the election.

Trump's long White House campaign against verifiable reality has culminated with his lie that he is the true winner of the 2020 presidential election he clearly, certifiably and fairly lost.

To many of us, it's ludicrous nonsense. But to millions of deluded Americans, it's the truth. And it has now gotten people killed.

The nation's truth problem, clearly, isn't just a Trump problem.

With this last blizzard of deception and the Capitol insurrection it fomented, Trump has shown us, once more, just how detached from reality much of his political base has become -- or always was.

 

[ipso_facto]

Perhaps it's not a good idea to go out riot if anyone is thinking about it.

 

[FORMER_FYRDMAN]

There was somebody on ARRSE a few days ago downplaying the seriousness of what took place, and suggesting that if anyone thought it serious they had never been in a mob situation. (I paraphrase). I don't for one moment doubt the experience of whoever that was. But watching the huge amount of video/sound material now available, it's now clear that what happened was much more serious and dangerous than my first impression, in which the weird costumes and country boy eccentricity figured so highly.

I expect that a proportion of those there were just pro-Trump instagrammers not intending any serious violence. Isn't that always the case with what turns into a dangerous mob? Sure, it wasn't the Falls Road or downtown Basra. With shouts of "get their guns" and "shoot him with his own gun", I was thinking more of Cpls Wood and Howes RIP.

That was me and the point was not that it was not serious, the five people who died would disagree with that for a start, but that it was not an existential threat. There is a considerable difference between a mob doing random violence and a trained and co-ordinated group trying to inflict maximum mayhem - as multiple mass casualty attacks have repeatedly demonstrated.

Imagine what those scenes would look like if it had been a Mumbai or Bataclan-style incident. The attackers wouldn't have milled around chatting to security and they would have probably had some idea of the layout of the target. Further, most of your eye witnesses would be in the morgue along with the news crews.

 

[tommikka]

No, you are special. It applies a discount

It applies a discount to the fake normal price
They give you a clue by stating the discount price next to the fake price

You have the option of paying over the odds or finding a code

 

[tommikka]

Perhaps it's not a good idea to go out riot if anyone is thinking about it.

Don’t then

 

[Graculus]

Saw this posting alleging the fence ha been build to ‘keep people in’. What do you think?

There is also a picture of another fence with the razor wire been fitted on the inside.

It's to stop Trump nicking the furniture when he leaves

 

[Eyes_Right]

That was me and the point was not that it was not serious, the five people who died would disagree with that for a start, but that it was not an existential threat. There is a considerable difference between a mob doing random violence and a trained and co-ordinated group trying to inflict maximum mayhem - as multiple mass casualty attacks have repeatedly demonstrated.

Imagine what those scenes would look like if it had been a Mumbai or Bataclan-style incident. The attackers wouldn't have milled around chatting to security and they would have probably had some idea of the layout of the target. Further, most of your eye witnesses would be in the morgue along with the news crews.

An interesting take on "existential threat". The consequences of an attempt to derail democracy and ignore Constitutional process are far more permanent and damaging than a body count. As tragic as it all is for those who get killed in a mass casualty attack, those effects are shocking, but short lived. We all know that the rent-a-mob professional agitators turn up to these things specifically to escalate and agitate, but this was more than just a few agitators. This was a focused attempt to prevent the Vice-President from declaring the results of the election by whatever means necessary. The fact that they were sponsored, encouraged and inspired by the current Commander-in-Chief and multiple GOP politicians just adds to the sedition and insurrection elements and is exactly why it wasn't just a "riot".

You will be aware in the States we regard slaughtering our fellow citizens as a right of passage, we even have a piece of the constitution to ensure we can do it almost with impunity. Our schools are like a CQB training village, and you should never attend a large public event without checking your NOK details are up to date. But that's the point here, killing lots of people violently changes nothing here. Even if those racist bigots had managed to kill more of the away team than the home team, we would be moving on with our lives by the following Tuesday. Probably having been distracted by more serious events, like discovering on mainstream media that Kim Kardassian's ass had exploded.

But this wasn't just random violence, it was an attempt to overthrow the very principles on which the United States was founded by right-wing extremists, led by that fat orange c*nt.